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Offline Nico

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I figured you might like this
oh well, I didn't plan to post about this, but I guess it's a bit selfish so:






Don't hold your breath tho, it's not a campaign I'm working on or anything, it's just me toying around. of course the idea doesn't come from nowhere, I do have a plot and stuff, but that kind of things has obvious gameplay issues that can't be fixed w/o serious code editing ( I see three main ones. )
now, for the explanation, the test was to figure out:
1) how FS2 would handle very high detailled models (look closely, the F22 has a modelled cockpit, with a pilot and all )
-> FS2 fails miserably, the Zbuffer is crappy ( but the cockpit+pilot submodel has its normals flipped, that doesn't help )
2) how to make a convincing sky
-> I'm more than happy with it, it's very easy actually, just have to use the right shape for the mesh plus a cleverly done map
3) how to merge the ground and the sky flawlessly
-> currently it's a big failure ( that's why the sky pof has been moved up and you can see space between the landscape and the ground on those pics ). but it's my own fault, I'll try a circular ground mesh next time, I think that should fix the cliping pb at high altitude ( that damn Zbuffer again )
4) wanted to test the primary with ammunitions from of SCP exe.
-> great job guys, it works wonderful
5) wanted to see how gameplay would be affected with "slightly" different tbls for the ships: top speed w/o the burners for the raptor is 150, 180 with burners if I remember right., no shields, very low HP ( two or three lasers will kill you, a collision with another ship/plane will kill you too ). aliens have a big damping factor, and lower speed.
-> I'm most pleased with that:
F22vsF22 dogfight proves to be very challenging ( yes, a 1vs1 dogfight ), it's not easy following the enemy at this speed, and it's actually very fun.
f22 vs alien is even more fun: the damping is very disturbing for a human player, but for the computer it doesn't seem to be a big deal. at first it seems the ships fly the same ( that's because of the shape of the alien, in fact ), but the cool thing is that they can face you even while flying in another direction than the "I rush up your face" tactic. which makes them more dangerous. sometimes they fly dumb as usual, and sometimes they just keep turning in every direction,  making funny sidestep whirling moves. makes them quite difficult to aim at, then. and it's cool. they're easier to shoot down than a f22 tho, since they're slower.

I plan to fix the bugs of that thing and release a complete mission... well, someday, but if you insist I can upload the current version, but it's full of bugs:
you can fly through the ground ( just a matter of fixing the mass of the pof in modelview actually, I think )
there's the clipping bugs on the F22
have to remove the turrent entries on the medium sized alien.
but other than that it's nice enough I believe.
voila, I hope you could bear with that long "essay" :p
« Last Edit: May 16, 2003, 03:10:39 pm by 83 »
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Offline KARMA

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I figured you might like this
what kind of z buffer you got in the f22 model? and are your engine inlets working fine?
very nice thing btw:)

 

Offline Rampage

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:eek:  WOW...  [Drools]

 

Offline vyper

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HOLY SH1T!:eek: :eek2:

EDIT: upload, yeh!
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Offline phreak

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venom, once we can get some major engine upgrades with the SCP you should be able to do all this.  but this is all long term stuff
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Offline SKYNET-011

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Woah...

That your model?
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by KARMA
what kind of z buffer you got in the f22 model? and are your engine inlets working fine?
very nice thing btw:)


mmh? what you mean? Zbuffer is a 3D engine stuff.
engine inlets? what's with them ( but no, they have clipping pbs too, as you can see on the second pic )?

Phreak: as I said I don't plan on doing a campaign out of that, so...
anyway, just for record, what should be needed for someone who wants to do such a thing:
1) "gravity". if the plane goes under a certain speed, it starts going down on the vertical axis, the more it slows down, the faster it falls. should be a ships.tbl flag so you can have ships not affected with gravity.
2) autolevel: when doing nothing, a plane should autolevel so it doesn't stupidly fly upside/down, for exemple ( so ship aligning to the Y axis of the world ).
3) don't remember what 3) was.

skynet: yeah? maps are made up from pics taken from the net.
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Offline KARMA

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Originally posted by Venom


mmh? what you mean? Zbuffer is a 3D engine stuff.
engine inlets? what's with them ( but no, they have clipping pbs too, as you can see on the second pic )?

i know about zbuffer, i'd just like to know how it looks like in your model
about the engine inlets i was curious because i never had engine inlets (as for any convex element..) without clippings

 

Offline Knight Templar

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Just out of curiousity for the people who are fredding ground missions and such; how do you get things to go on the ground? Like trucks or whatever?
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Offline Deepblue

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Thats the USAF model isnt it.
I found the original USAF models converted to max a while ago.

 

Offline CateranOverlord

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F22 Raptor, SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!

I'm kind of a military buff so this is very cool for me.
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Offline Black Wolf

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OMFG!!!! :eek2: That is incredible! This is one of the things people have been talking about and requesting since the earliest days of FS1! And it's been done!

Any chance whatsoever that we might be able to get our hands on some models and/or the way you did this? Details details details! There are so many potential uses for something like this... It's... I dunno, incredible again :D
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Offline J.F.K.

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[Q]Originally posted by Black Wolf
OMFG!!!! :eek2: That is incredible! [/Q]

My thoughts exactly... :eek2: That's amazing...
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Offline TrashMan

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GROUND!   SKY!  ME WANTS!:eek2:
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Deepblue
Thats the USAF model isnt it.
I found the original USAF models converted to max a while ago.


no, that's mine. but if I could get my hands on those, that would help me :p
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Offline Ryx

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Cool. :eek2:
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whoa




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Offline KARMA

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Offline Nico

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I figured you might like this
heh, you finally figured it? :D
anyway, there you go:
http://www.swooh.com/premium/venom/FS2files/AFtest.zip ( 2.6 mb )
enjoy.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2003, 10:55:16 am by 83 »
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