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apocolyptic postmillenialism - why US -> Sh1t
Apocolyptic Postmillenialism is why the US has GONE TO **** in the wake of Schrub - it also explains all his policies: attacking education, freedom of thought, speech and religion, yada yada

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0%2c3604%2c1195568%2c00.html
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Well, that explains the nukes.
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it explains everything -- you just have to realize the depth of it

read the book i've been Citing From

The Fundmantals of Extremism: The Christian Right in America
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I know all about Christian Fundamentalists.

They're the single greatest threat to mankind since the plague.

If they had their way, they'd bring about the next Dark Age.

Though I suppose this means there's a silver lining on the mass-immigration after all. By the time they start killing people, Britain will be so full of Muslims we might actually be able to slaughter the self-righteous sons of *****es.
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I know all about Christian Fundamentalists.

They're the single greatest threat to mankind since the plague.

If they had their way, they'd bring about the next Dark Age.

Though I suppose this means there's a silver lining on the mass-immigration after all. By the time they start killing people, Britain will be so full of Muslims we might actually be able to slaughter the self-righteous sons of *****es.


unfortunately, some religions are dragging humanity to another war, possibly one on a global scale.. (and i don't mean this terrorist bull**** either)..

at least the atheists and the people who are "disenchanted" or show apathy with religion don't act righteous.. to my mind, this latest batch of 'radical' islam extremists are just repeating history, which the catholic church did so many years ago with the crusades and the inquisition.

EDIT: to my mind, terrorists, and other people who take religion to the extreme just hide behind their books, dieties, and words. they use it to justify their actions.
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the biggest threat to global safety, economy and science is the US Fundamentalist Movement
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It certainly is a cycling of world events. I'm not surprised at all, especially by the rampant misrepresentation of what the Christian faith is. It is truly a sad tale that such evil can result from such good, but I believe that's the story of the whole world in some measure anyway.
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You remember the parts of the bible about God committing genocide, right?
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you've got something backwards there

Good can be done in the name of religion - but the same Good can be done without the religion

Good done in the name of religion is good from Bad - Irrationality, which is all religion is, is not a good thing to found your thinking about factuality off of
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You remember the parts of the bible about God committing genocide, right?


I don't think any of that can be regarded with any sense, though, unless we're willing to accept that all of humanity justly deserves destruction.
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So what? You're just ignoring several clear examples of God indescriminately wiping out entire cities?

Face it, the Bible/Christianity as not all bunnies and forgiveness. Infact, it's only marginally less violent than the Qur'an/Islam.
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I didn't say ignore. :p But I think those actions were just.

And I totally agree that the Bible is not all bunnies and forgiveness (I didn't realise the Bible was any measure of bunnies, for instance :D). Noting the Bible's stance that God requires justice whatever the price, violent destruction of many things is very important in Christianity.
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You don't think the actions of the deity upon which the entire religion is based were just, but you still think it's a good religion?

Are you stoned?
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Kazan, how many of these stupid political threads are you gonna post?

 

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Did I write something by mistake? I do think those divine actions were just.
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Sorry, misread it.

Anyways: So you're advocating the genocide of entire populations because they don't agree with your interpretation of a book? Hmmm. Where've I heard that before.....

And also, by implication, you're saying that genocide is , in some cases, a good thing.

That's just plain ****ed up.
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No, no, let's rewind a bit. For the sake of argument, let's forget about nations for a while; I have all of mankind in view. The crime of mankind is not misinterpretation of a book alone; it's rebellion against God. That's a whole separate discussion, but for now I'll assume that that's the action and it deserves death. If we are taking the Bible's POV, it's quite clear that all of mankind has taken part in that rebellion (even when it hit the Israelite authors themselves very hard - have a read of the opening chapters of Isaiah, for instance, where God is lamenting the sin of Israel and pronouncing judgement on them).

Again, genocide? Well, we do believe in a justice system. Many Western justice systems (like the current Australian one, which I know well enough to talk about a little) will not inflict the death penalty as a throwback to the Christian foundation of death being a punishment that only God ought to inflict. However, suppose that man did have the right (and indeed, the responsibility) to inflict death on those who were guilty of crime. This punishment is not good in itself but good because it protects and ensures the safety of others. If several people are guilty, then we have no qualms with pronouncing justice on all of them. What if the whole world were guilty? Then, I would say that death would be deserved by the whole world.
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How will the Antichrist take over the world?


He will come upon the world scene offering peace to a very troubled world, according to Daniel, chapter 8. But, he will, through peace, destroy many people, the prophecy says.



a small section of raptureready.com faq. Sounds familiar to a certain world leader if ya ask me, of the 4 star variety.
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Setekh just ENDORSED GENOCIDE
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Revelation, chapter 6, has him coming as the rider on the white horse. He has a bow in his hand, but has no arrows. This symbolizes that he has might but offers peace. This is deception because he is, by nature, a conqueror; the red horse of war will soon follow. This is the beginning of the campaign called Armageddon.

He will, no doubt, be the most attractive, charismatic world leader to appear on the world stage. He will come speaking great words that will mesmerize most people. Eventually, he will enslave most of the world with his mark and number system of transacting business. That same system will eventually cause all to worship him as God, or be killed.



the 1st section also fits, but the 2nd deosnt - yet :-/
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