[Unknown Target]

Well not really. I just added a couple of details here and there. I do think it's an improvement over the original zeus (altho not a large one, I admit), but what do you guys think?

[Singh]

looks nice, if a little boxy. Those polys ought to be used to make it more sleek than anything else I think......

[Liberator]

Look's okay, but the Zeus's bomb bays don't go that far in.  Also, there's really no reason to add a lot of detail to the engines as they will never be seen except in very rare situations.  Try adding some of the surface features such a vents and the slight variations in size around the bomb bays.

[Black Wolf]

It looks kinda...thin somehow.

[TopAce]

The Zeus is definitely among the few fighters which have no need for a poly-increase.
It looks good, by the way, but I doubt you would notice the changes right in the middle of a dogfight unless you get close to it. Why do you guys make the engines so detailed? You cannot see those holes, there is the engine glow there. Even if you disable it, you would not bother how it looks like since you want to make the Zeus equal to space debris. I definitely like the cockpit part, just to say something positive.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TopAce
The Zeus is definitely among the few fighters which have no need for a poly-increase.
It looks good, by the way, but I doubt you would notice the changes right in the middle of a dogfight unless you get close to it. Why do you guys make the engines so detailed? You cannot see those holes, there is the engine glow there. Even if you disable it, you would not bother how it looks like since you want to make the Zeus equal to space debris. I definitely like the cockpit part, just to say something positive.

a) hopefully the shadowing system - combined with the shading we already have - will make the details very important

b) Engines are usually very detailed because that is the one area which you are likely to see on a ship - i.e. either attacking it, or viewing it in chase mode.  So that area is often indented for artistic purposes - i.e. to make it look like there is a proper engine exhaust there.   Albeit, I normally would not indent it that far - just about 5-10 units (in max...i.e. not much, obviously relative to scale, so not a great example), then use textures to add the rest.

The Zeus, though, is one of the best looking FS ships IMO.  It'll be hard to improve on it - Terran ships are a lot more immune to low poly problems, as a lot are boxy anyways.

[TopAce]

I still haven't played with any builds with this so-called shadowing. :thepimp:

[Taristin]

Get one from the shadow stencil thread.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TopAce
I still haven't played with any builds with this so-called shadowing. :thepimp:

Even just with shading, rather than shadowing, it has a surprisingly large impact.   Especially if combined with glow & spec mapping..... it is actually getting closer to the stage when all details can be modelled rather than simply mapped.  

In fact, it's getting the right balance of that which is difficult.

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Raa
Get one from the shadow stencil thread.

I think I know I can get one from there. I simply did not bother downloading any of them. Time to do so? Time to do so. Time do so!

Originally posted by aldo_14

Even just with shading, rather than shadowing, it has a surprisingly large impact.   Especially if combined with glow & spec mapping..... it is actually getting closer to the stage when all details can be modelled rather than simply mapped.  

In fact, it's getting the right balance of that which is difficult.

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