[DaBrain]

Ok, my Loki wasn't really good after all, so I'm trying to work on another ship.

What do you think? Am I on right way this time?

[Unknown Target]

Melikes

[Ghost]

The pic is a little on the dark side. Could you try getting a better one where I can see the model in a better light?

[WMCoolmon]

Looks pretty good from what I can see.

[DaBrain]

Ok, a better pic. No problem.


This one should match WMCoolmon's pic:




And another one:




Right out of Wings3d.

[FireCrack]

3 things.

1: Very good so far !
2: Model in the glowing bits though...
3: (nitpick) the triangles of the gun barrels should have the point furthest from the center pointing winwards and downwards

[Cobra]

jesus, you people never know when to stop amazing me.

but i've always had this question: why do the laser banks look like they should be for missiles, and vice versa?

[FireCrack]

ersonaly i think it was either a messup like the myrmydon-helios, or it was decided that the balance needed to be changed and :V: did it the lazy way.

[karajorma]

Considering that the FS2 intro has them the wrong way round you could very likely be correct Firecrack. Most likely the change happened too late to redo the scenes the Manticore was in.

[Cobra]

but still, the missile ports look like they would prevent the missiles themselves from even getting out.

IMO, it makes look kinda stupid there. not that I have anything against them, though.

[WMCoolmon]

He could widen the ports. Dunno how that'd look.

[WeatherOp]

Considering that the FS2 intro has them the wrong way round you could very likely be correct Firecrack. Most likely the change happened too late to redo the scenes the Manticore was in.

FS1 movie too, it shoots from the front banks.

[StratComm]

That's a looks-vs-balance thing.  Same deal with the Apollo, probably the Myrmadon, and a number of other ships.  Having the gun ports on the extreme edges of a ship (Claymore!!!!1111one, to pick at aldo ) makes the ship MUCH less combat effective, and typically dealt with this by swapping gun and missile ports on affected models.

[FireCrack]

Personaly, i never had a problem with wingtip gunbanks, just aim a bit off center to compensate...

[StratComm]

But you only hit with half your guns when you do.  It's not impossible to compensate for, it's just not ideal.  And I don't think the AI could figure it out.

[Galemp]

Needs more work; as it's been said, model in the glowy bits. Try to make it look like the texture even when it's untextured; that way when it's done the UV maps can be adjusted to the model and look much better.

IIRC Nico made a Manticore. Let's find it.

[FireCrack]

Then you roll so all your shots hit

unless it's one of those blasted peauguseses.

But yeah, the AI is the deal eh...

[WMCoolmon]

But you only hit with half your guns when you do.  It's not impossible to compensate for, it's just not ideal.  And I don't think the AI could figure it out.

Yeah, I've watched a Herc sit a few hundred meters away from a sentry gun (or cargo container, I don't remember) and fire away at it for at least five minutes, completely missing it every time. A marksman the AI is not.

[DaBrain]

IIRC Nico made a Manticore. Let's find it.

... I knew it...

Screw the broken search function.

[Galemp]

HERE's the archived thread, image links are broken though. He said he was working from the concept art found HERE, which is a good idea.