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Offline Raptor

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...The GTD Hera is back in game, and she is armed to the teeth!  ;)










Now I have a real incentive to finish the texturing! :D Despite how daunting a task that is... :shaking:
« Last Edit: September 19, 2006, 11:39:34 am by Raptor »
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Is that like a MkII of the Hades. Also the name... Boy, Hades must be jealous that the wife of his bitter rival beat them all. Anyways, RATING time:

Model: Kudos for that :D 4/5
Skin: Not done but I'd like to see it when its done. Currently 2/5 but I'm expecting a 5/5 :D
Concept: Unfortunately my originality senses are screaming that it is only a Hades clone. Its not me, its that feeling I get in the back of my mind. Its all in my head anyways so it doesn't matter.
I have created a masterpiece.

 
Textures = yucky  :ick:


Ship = very cool!   :yes:


@Vengeance: What's wrong with a Hades clone? The original Hades is a very neat ship (crappy campaign it was featured in notwithstanding).
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Offline Getter Robo G

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Not really, it's loosely based on it.

Here's the Saturn (my retexture). Hera's precursor...



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Offline Vasudan Admiral

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Textures = yucky  :ick:
Dude, he posted two lines of text in his post, the second of which said he still needs to finish the textures. :p

So anyways - well done Raptor, what did you get the final total Pcount and turret count down to?

And Getter Robo, err, what's with the smoothed solid grey texture? :confused: It squashes all geometric detail the Hera has quite flat, leaving a rather bland grey rock in place. Considering Raptor's made a UV map for it, overwriting that and applying a solid grey tile map instead isn't a particularly effective way to go about retexturing it. ;)

Hmm, and umm, it be pirate day apparently. Wheee! :D
I mean Arrrrr!
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Ya i just noticed the pirate stuff too.. I was just posting in another thread and looked at the preview and wtf?!? LOL geez it's already April 1 again.  :lol:
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Offline Raptor

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It most certainly ain't 1st April, so  :wtf: is with the pirate talk?  Ah, what the hell...

That model you're showing GRG is the Saturn alright, the old, non-SCP retail limits version.  Back then it the hull was about 730 polys.  And I think the version I let out was a simple 'box UV, tiled' mess. :nervous:

Now, LOD0 with full turrets and added hull parts (but no destroyed turret models) = 17732 polys.  Cutting all the extrusions and turret indents, and the ribbing on the engine spars, cut the poly count of the hull itself almost in half, even after a couple of minor geo changes (Before was about 6.4K, now it's 3.8K)

It is meant to be a development of the Hades.  That was a cool ship, just a bit too big and a little too spread out.  Plus badly turreted :ick:  I've considered doing an HTL version of that at points... Thing is I'd redo the turrets completely while I was at it... (well it's meant to be a superdestroyer!)

Arrgh, I was going to get ingame comparsion shots between the Hera and Hades, but FS2 is being stubborn, so we'll have to make do with FRED shots:





As I said, just got to finish texturing it.  Any help would be appricated! :nod:
« Last Edit: September 19, 2006, 11:40:19 am by Raptor »
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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She's a beaut' Now put up a DL link or face my cold steel............. :D
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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You know... on the original hades (wish i could find a better pic),  remove the all those plyons in the rear (including the bridge) and you've got yourself a transport. (Put the bridge in the very front section)
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Offline Raptor

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I intended to put up a link... once it's done. ;)

First attempt at a 'proper' hull plated texture (the bit above the banks of deck lights):


I've gone for a regular pattern since it makes more sense from a construction point-of-view (can you see the workers just randomly sticking on random sized hull plates haphazardly?)  I have got two possible styles there.  One set of panels has the middle row shifted along.

There will be added bits (patches, scars, details like vents etc) in the future, I just want to know If I'm heading in the right direction...
« Last Edit: September 19, 2006, 11:38:22 am by Raptor »
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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V Nice, is it just me or this pirate stuff, poopin up Imageshack too?
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Offline Wobble73

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No Dekker, I'm having the same difficulty when I click on a thumbnail! It's not directing me to the image, just Imageshack itself!
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Captain Jacks ghost..........
The ship is nice, i jut wanna see it in more depth.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Offline Raptor

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Nay Dekker, I'm havin' th' same difficulty when I click on a thumbnail!  It's not directin' me t' th' image, just Imageshack itself!

Okay, I just tried it and I too am directed to Imageshack.  Definately a WTF moment :wtf:

I'll edit last post for full image...
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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So this ship, is taking over teh Hades?

 
the textures IMHO looks a little cartoony.

the actual ship looks a lot like a modern-day destroyer with an X-wing's rear (Uglies anybody??)

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Don't listen to Spartan. I like the Hera, esp. once the texturing is done.


@Spartan: once the texturing is done. Don't judge the textures yet... I made that mistake already.  :p
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Don't listen to Spartan. I like the Hera, esp. once the texturing is done.


@Spartan: once the texturing is done. Don't judge the textures yet... I made that mistake already.  :p


1. When did constructive criticism ever hurt someone

2. I didn't say I didn't like the Hera, I just wouldn't use it in any of my campaigns

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Offline Raptor

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1. When did constructive criticism ever hurt someone

2. I didn't say I didn't like the Hera, I just wouldn't use it in any of my campaigns

Ans to 1) never, unless it's not said in a polite and fair way.  But then again that wouldn't be constructive criticism.  ATM I'm still blocking out the textures (*cough*hull plating*cough*)  Hence the 'plasticy' look.  I'll be going over the whole hull with the effect I've got with that strip.

& @ 2) Your loss.  ;)

Got a little held up, since I had to redo the turret and sub-parts mapping (currently got two maps used, condensing down to just one), and I need to reconvert anyway...

Once I've redone the turrets (all 96 of them) I'll set to work on the hull...

And BTW, which would people prefer: the shifted plating or the in line version?
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Offline Getter Robo G

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Yeah I know, that's why I listed it by NAME. That wasn't the Hera it's the SATURN. That was long ago when I was learning about changing textures. I got half-way satisfied and then forgot about it.  :nervous:


Hera's looking better than I remembered, especially those light banks!  :yes:
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