[Polpolion]

The Shivans have stuff like the Gigas or the Gargant(they must have colossal warships).

Stop acting like Inferno is canon. I always hate it when people take things from the most prevalent campaigns (not just Inferno) as canon.

[Jake2447]

The Shivans have stuff like the Gigas or the Gargant(they must have colossal warships).

Stop acting like Inferno is canon. I always hate it when people take things from the most prevalent campaigns (not just Inferno) as canon.

Yes, I would agree that it is annoying, but the point he was trying to make to me is that the Shivans would have a super powerful fleet (whether it be by numbers or by superior tech).

Has anyone tried my demo mission yet?  The least you can do is give me some feedback on my FREDding.

[Mobius]

The Shivans have stuff like the Gigas or the Gargant(they must have colossal warships).

Stop acting like Inferno is canon. I always hate it when people take things from the most prevalent campaigns (not just Inferno) as canon.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Inferno is "The Mod" and everything else isn't canon. The Sol Coalition of Powers is as muchas good as the Earth Alliance! I was simply saying that we can expect from the Shivans stuff like the Gigas, the Gargant or the Dante.

They sortied 80 Sathanas in Capella. They must have something bigger.

[TrashMan]

They sortied 80 Sathanas in Capella. They may have something bigger.

Fixed.

[Mobius]

I don't think so. Who knows how big the Shivan fleet is? 80 Juggernauts could be nothing for them. That's why the must have much bigger warships.

[Snail]

I don't think so. Who knows how big the Shivan fleet is? 80 Juggernauts could be nothing for them. That's why the must have much bigger warships.

Who knows? Maybe the Saths were their ultimate fleet.

[Mobius]

Why would the Shivans sacrifice many components of their ultimate fleet?

They could have destroyed all GTVA systems without losing even a Sathanas. What's the point in sacrificing Juggernauts, if there are only a few of them?

[Snail]

Why would the Shivans sacrifice many components of their ultimate fleet?

They could have destroyed all GTVA systems without losing even a Sathanas. What's the point in sacrificing Juggernauts, if there are only a few of them?

MAYBE they didn't do it to destroy the GTVA? Maybe they were doing something else?

[0rph3u5]

MAYBE they didn't do it to destroy the GTVA? Maybe they were doing something else?

Maybe "There is something even the Shivans have to fear"...

let's save this discussion for the other board which is better suited for this...

and let Jake2447 do his thing! I guess he will come around with HIS ideas in HIS campaign for good
*walks off doing that demo mission*

[Mobius]

Maybe "There is something even the Shivans have to fear"...

Considering that this sentence comes straight from your 666th post...

Yeah. The Shivans really fear something

[0rph3u5]

The Shivans really fear something

Alpha 1 
or read my sig

now back ON-TOPIC -- who played the demo mission?

EDIT: I did - comment follow (spoilered away):

Spoiler:

- chain your directives to an event (since you have to protect the corvette only after it has started it is WPs and not the whole mission)
- ai-chase goes well with cruisers but you should consider setting them on Waypoint paths
- the enemy fighters are well too overpowered/numberous
- there is no straight line if the attackers are pirates or NWF (directives contradict messages)
- make the shipyard protect-ship (via sexp or ships editor) - scorpio wing turned on it instead of the corvette
- a bit more y(up&down)-placement
- NWC intead of NWFC to keep it with the 1-2 letters for the faction and 1-2 letters for the shipclass

[Jake2447]

The Shivans really fear something

Alpha 1 
or read my sig

now back ON-TOPIC -- who played the demo mission?

EDIT: I did - comment follow (spoilered away):

Spoiler:

- chain your directives to an event (since you have to protect the corvette only after it has started it is WPs and not the whole mission)
- ai-chase goes well with cruisers but you should consider setting them on Waypoint paths
- the enemy fighters are well too overpowered/numberous
- there is no straight line if the attackers are pirates or NWF (directives contradict messages)
- make the shipyard protect-ship (via sexp or ships editor) - scorpio wing turned on it instead of the corvette
- a bit more y(up&down)-placement
- NWC intead of NWFC to keep it with the 1-2 letters for the faction and 1-2 letters for the shipclass

Thanks.  That's a lot of what I really wanted to know.
Two Questions:
1.  Were there too many bombers?
2.  Was it too easy?  (If it was too hard, this will be solved when the better ships are added.)

[0rph3u5]

the bomber count was okay...
maybe some more in the second half (I got all of them killed one and half minute before the corvette jumped and I was dodging Harpoons all the time)
I'm not the the best pilot and I had the impression it was quite hard (dodging the three harpoons at a time .... even my loved Ares cannot do that for 8 minutes) - but I guess you are right when saying the impact of new ships will turn the odds

[Jake2447]

Yes.  The real mission will have the

Spoiler:

GTCv Nike and the GTC Hyperion mods.  Also, the player will fly the GTF Ezechiel (with an upgraded table so that it has better armor, shield, and speed, but lower turning.  Basically, an advanced assault fighter.