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Offline PLX

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End of 9th Derelict mission problem
Hi!
I play a Derelict campagin. I can't go through the 9th mission (Rites of Passage). At the end of mission a governor should dock to Luxor but his vessel hit the station, then it tries to dock again and again hit. Finally, it crashes.

Can you help me? What should I do?
BTW My english isn't too good, I hope you'll understand :)

PS Maybe I should download the newest version of campagin core but I can't find link to it (this one wchich I know is rather old, I think). Can you give me this link, please?
« Last Edit: November 19, 2007, 03:26:38 pm by PLX »

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
:welcomered:

Are you playing FSO or retail? If FSO, you'll need to get the mediavps and the easiest way is to use Turey's Installer (link in my signature).
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline PLX

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
My version is FSO Core 3.6.9 + Mediavps. Launcher 5.5c
After posted here I thought my Derelict version may be old because my game version is rather good (for example - I played The Procyon Insurgency and I had no problems with it).
« Last Edit: November 19, 2007, 04:32:45 pm by PLX »

 

Offline Goober5000

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
This is a known problem.  Look here for a workaround: http://scp.indiegames.us/mantis/view.php?id=1168

 

Offline PLX

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
Thanks Goober but I hardly understand this whole fredding thing. I still don't know if there is any solution and how it can be done.

 

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
If you don't know how to fix it in FRED, look for an old 3.6.7 build and play just that one mission in it.  Something about 3.6.9 moves the station.  IIRC, it's actually because there are two station instances in that mission.  I believe someone posted a patch, but I have no idea where you'd find it.
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Offline ARSPR

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
My version is FSO Core 3.6.9 + Mediavps. Launcher 5.5c
After posted here I thought my Derelict version may be old because my game version is rather good (for example - I played The Procyon Insurgency and I had no problems with it).

This problem has been addressed quite a few times in the main Derelict thread. And the last one from this message on.

And as I told BustRobot, you are not using mediavps in a right way because mediavps (3.6.8 + alpha channel patches) fix the trouble.

Nevertheless you can download a fixed mission from the mantis link (dl2-01.fs2). Place it in freespace2\Derelict\data\missions folder
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
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    (Lobo deserves a monument).
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    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

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Offline PLX

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
Thanks ARSPR and everyone who tried to help me.
ARSPR's way is the most easiest and effective IMO. It turned ring so governor was able to dock for coffe and thank alpha 1 ;)

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
It sure is the easiest way but nonetheless, if you don't yet have the mediavps, you should get them. I'm telling you, once you've played FreeSpace with the mediavps enabled, the retail will look like crap. Oh, and LightSpeed's Nebulae. You need to get them. Otherwise you won't get any background nebula textures in Derelict and that, my friend, sucks.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline PLX

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
I have mediavps but 3.6.9 version - it's why I had troubles.
I had nebulae but I lost it. Can you tell me where I can download it from? It's really hard to found something at this forum  :confused:

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
I had nebulae but I lost it. Can you tell me where I can download it from? It's really hard to found something at this forum  :confused:
Behind the Useful Stuff link on my signature. Instructions are on the page.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline PLX

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
Thanks Lobo. There's many useful things.  :yes:

 

Offline ARSPR

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
I have mediavps but 3.6.9 version - it's why I had troubles.
I had nebulae but I lost it. Can you tell me where I can download it from? It's really hard to found something at this forum  :confused:
You can't have 3.6.9. mediavps version because they just don't exist. Only the exe is 3.6.9.

From 3.6.8. (a beta release nevertheless) we are going to jump to 3.6.10. which are going to be great (included Nebulae, normal maps, unified maps for every single ship, mipmapped dds textures for every single ship and more). DaBrain is working really hard with them.
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
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    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

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Offline Objekt

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
I just encountered this problem myself.  Twice now I've watched the gov's shuttle fly around, repeatedly bang itself into the station, and finally die - result, FAIL!

 

Offline Objekt

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
I downloaded the replacement mission file, and put it where it should work, but it doesn't.  The ring is still out of position, and the stupid shuttle bashes itself against the station until it dies.

Can't run SCP 3.6.7 as I don't have it, and it doesn't seem to be available for download.

I tried to skip this mission by failing it 5 times on purpose, but the "advance to next mission" doesn't work.  It looks like it does, but then I get put right back in the briefing for this broken mission.  What's that about?!

There are more missions in this campaign, right?  A few campaigns don't actually have a "you finished the campaign" message, but just dump you right back into the final mission, even if you've completed it.  But, I don't think this campaign is one of those, as I've yet to see a trace of the titular "Derelict" or any of the other promised goodies.

 

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
Here's an idea. Make Luxor and the shuttle invulnerable, then ~+k the Ganymede. It's in the Derelict SCP thread as one of my fixes.
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Offline Objekt

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
Here's an idea. Make Luxor and the shuttle invulnerable, then ~+k the Ganymede. It's in the Derelict SCP thread as one of my fixes.

Do what?  I don't know how to do either of those things.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
Look for FreeSpace 2 cheats, then invulnerabilize the Luxor and the shuttle and kill the Ganymede. With 'dem cheats.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline ARSPR

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
I downloaded the replacement mission file, and put it where it should work, but it doesn't.  The ring is still out of position, and the stupid shuttle bashes itself against the station until it dies.

Sorry if this post seem a bit rude...

I'm a bit tired of people saying that something that works DOESN'T WORK.

In this situation you've done something wrong. PERIOD. Ask for help, try to clean your installation or whatever, but don't say that the game doesn't work. The fault is yours.

Computers just do what they are told to do, they are neither creative, nor artists, nor stupid-machines-that-love-disturbing-you.

If you have a good CLEAN FS2 installation, you've installed your mods each one in a different folder, you don't mix pilot between mods, you don't have strange vps or other data in the middle, you are using at least official build 3.6.9. (or even later builds) then:
  • if you rightly use Mediavps 3.6.8. zeta + alpha patches,
    OR
  • if you download and RIGHTLY use the fixed mission,
the problem is gone. YES or YES, there's no possible NO answer.

Please check you fulfil all the "ifs" I've told.
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

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Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

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Offline MP-Ryan

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Re: End of 9th Derelict mission problem
I downloaded the replacement mission file, and put it where it should work, but it doesn't.  The ring is still out of position, and the stupid shuttle bashes itself against the station until it dies.

Sorry if this post seem a bit rude...

I'm a bit tired of people saying that something that works DOESN'T WORK.

In this situation you've done something wrong. PERIOD. Ask for help, try to clean your installation or whatever, but don't say that the game doesn't work. The fault is yours.

Computers just do what they are told to do, they are neither creative, nor artists, nor stupid-machines-that-love-disturbing-you.

If you have a good CLEAN FS2 installation, you've installed your mods each one in a different folder, you don't mix pilot between mods, you don't have strange vps or other data in the middle, you are using at least official build 3.6.9. (or even later builds) then:
  • if you rightly use Mediavps 3.6.8. zeta + alpha patches,
    OR
  • if you download and RIGHTLY use the fixed mission,
the problem is gone. YES or YES, there's no possible NO answer.

Please check you fulfil all the "ifs" I've told.

Ummm... the latest media VPs plus patches do NOT automatically fix the issue in 3.6.9 Official.  The mission itself had a problem with the presence of two Ganymede installations, one of which blocks the docking port.  Only the fixed mission conclusively resolves the problem.  That said, this issue does not appear every time in 3.6.9 either, which makes it a bugger.

Really, someone with access to the Derelict VPs on Filefront needs to repack them to include the fixed mission.  Otherwise, this pesky bug is going to continue to appear.

That said, yes, someone is doing something wrong if the known fixes don't correct the issue.
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