[Goober5000]

"Trunk" is what we call "the stable branch" in SVN. And here it is.  Taylor checked in a bunch of new changes and fixes over the past few days, and WMC added his camera code and several scripting improvements, so see what you think.
http://fs2source.warpcore.org/exes/latest/20080321-Goober5000.7z

[Colonol Dekker]

Yay! Direct link ftw, cheers
*DLS to try out.

[Wanderer]

I see the alternate subsystem names code made it here too

[MP-Ryan]

This build, like Taylor's Xt0314 build, breaks the TVWP.

Specifically, it breaks the ammo gauge.  The weapon is present, but has no ammunition.  This is not a pilot file bu because switching back to the 0306 Xt build or any previous build fixes the problem without switching pilots.

Furthermore, it may be related to handling of tables.  In the third mission of the TVWP demo you can select the weapons your shrike is armed with.  If you drag the M-72s off the Shrike and then try to drag them back, a message flashes up saying the shrike cannot handle M-72 weaponry.  However, previous builds do not have this problem.  This would seem to illustrate a recently added bug in the way weapons tables are handled, specifically with weapons which contain ammunition.

It is most obvious in the TVWP but the nature of the bug suggest this is not mod-specific but encompasses table-handling itself.  As this is the second public test build with the bug present, I would say you've now got it in SVN.

[ARSPR]

This build, like Taylor's Xt0314 build, breaks the TVWP.

Mantis it?

[Mobius]

I see the alternate subsystem names code made it here too

Is that what I think it is? It can be used to mark Railgun turrets(that are considered normal "laser turrets")!

[Wanderer]

Is that what I think it is? It can be used to mark Railgun turrets(that are considered normal "laser turrets")!

Yeah.. that's it. Goes before the subsystem armor entry (if it has any).

Example... GTFr Triton...

Code: [Select]

$Name:                  GTFR Triton
   +nocreate
$Subsystem:             turret01,1,1.0
   $Alt Subsystem Name: Flak Turret
   $Default PBanks:        ( "Standard Flak" )
$Subsystem:             turret02,1,1.0
   $Alt Subsystem Name: Subach Turret
   $Default PBanks:        ( "Subach HL-7" )
$Subsystem:             communications,         10,     0.0
   $Alt Subsystem Name: Subspace Comms
$Subsystem:             navigation,          5,      0.0
   $Alt Subsystem Name: Astrogation

[asyikarea51]

I notice this build handles the F3 viewer slightly differently, in earlier builds the viewer turns itself off when I exit it, in this build, the last selected ship is still shown even after exiting and re-entering the viewer. Also there's no normal mapping but that doesn't matter since this isn't an official release.

One question about the $Alt Subsystem Name: Apart from tables, can the names be set in FRED (or by manually editing the file with a text editor at the very least)? Considering that weapons can be changed in FRED...

[Wanderer]

From what i discussed with karajorma there should be a SEXP for doing the trick as well.

This build, like Taylor's Xt0314 build, breaks the TVWP.

Specifically, it breaks the ammo gauge.  The weapon is present, but has no ammunition.  This is not a pilot file bu because switching back to the 0306 Xt build or any previous build fixes the problem without switching pilots.

Just making sure... are you 100 % sure there is nothing wrong in your tables?

[Mobius]

Railguns will work fine with modifications to the table entry, but a SEXP would be formidable.

[Wanderer]

At least sexps.html tells it is in there.... Change -> Subsystems and Cargo -> change-subsystem-name

change-subsystem-name
    change-subsystem-name
    Changes the name of the specified subsystem on the specified ship
    Takes 3 or more arguments
    1: Name(s) of ship(s)
    2: New name for the subsystem (names larger than the maximum display size will be truncated
    3: Name(s) of subsystem(s) to rename

[Mobius]

[karajorma]

Do you really think I'd add a feature and not add a SEXP if one was possible?

[asyikarea51]

Do you really think I'd add a feature and not add a SEXP if one was possible?

Uhhhhh... o_O
*aa51 gets all



Anyway, seems like this build still doesn't fix an extremely minor sound issue that's been bugging me for a while now, but rather than get on the coders' nerves, I'll play around with file names and other builds, find a simple solution or something.

[MP-Ryan]

This build, like Taylor's Xt0314 build, breaks the TVWP.

Specifically, it breaks the ammo gauge.  The weapon is present, but has no ammunition.  This is not a pilot file bu because switching back to the 0306 Xt build or any previous build fixes the problem without switching pilots.

Just making sure... are you 100 % sure there is nothing wrong in your tables?

Yes.  It's the TVWP pack straight from the demo download.  And it works fine in ALL builds from march 6th and earlier.  The error is due to something that's been committed between March 6th and now.

Try it yourself.  The bug affects all of the first three missions (and I have no idea if it affects the ones beyond that, though I'd imagine it does).

[Zacam]

The previous builds may or may not have caught on to the fact that there was an error in the tables and now it is.

Just because it never previously showed up does not mean it previously was not an issue. Remember the 3.6.8Z Alpha Patches? Everything _seemed_ to render fine until it got fixed, necessitating the mvp Alpha patches.

About it not being a pilot problem, you mention switching a build back without changing the pilot and the problem goes away, but did you create a new pilot to test with?

(Downloading TVWP now)

[MP-Ryan]

The previous builds may or may not have caught on to the fact that there was an error in the tables and now it is.

Just because it never previously showed up does not mean it previously was not an issue. Remember the 3.6.8Z Alpha Patches? Everything _seemed_ to render fine until it got fixed, necessitating the mvp Alpha patches.

About it not being a pilot problem, you mention switching a build back without changing the pilot and the problem goes away, but did you create a new pilot to test with?

(Downloading TVWP now)

A completely new pilot file experiences this problem in the new build.  A completely new pilot does not experience this problem in any build prior to 0306.  Pilots used in both sets of builds experience the problem in the new build, but not in the older ones.

It's not a pilot file compatibility/corruption issue.

The weapons.tbl and ships.tbl files for TVWP match up appropriately as well for weapons compatibility.  I have no idea why a new build should suddenly cause the game to fail to recognize the compatibility of a particular weapon with a particular ship, but it does.

For ease of testing, use mission 3 of the demo because it has the ship and weapons selection tabs in the briefing enabled.  You'll see the error if you drag the M-72 off the shrike and then attempt to drag it back.

[ARSPR]

I can confirm both MP-Ryan troubles. As he says, TVWP "A Calm Sea" mission is perfect for testing.

I haven't tested this build, (I'm too used to Taylor's Xt normal mapping builds), but I can narrow down the problem to something between Xt0313 and Xt0314. So depending on when Taylor synchronized his own code tree, the trouble comes from some post in March 12th, 13th or 14th.

@MP-Ryan: Again, mantis it? 



EDIT: --------
This trouble is maybe solved BUT TWICE.

+I've just installed TortoiseSVN
+I've downloaded the code following Kara's explanation.
+Just to play a little with TortoiseSVN, I've done "Show Log" and I get the attached screenshot
+As you can see the last two posts from Taylor and WMC seem to be for the very same issue...

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[taylor]

This trouble is maybe solved BUT TWICE.

+I've just installed TortoiseSVN
+I've downloaded the code following Kara's explanation.
+Just to play a little with TortoiseSVN, I've done "Show Log" and I get the attached screenshot
+As you can see the last two posts from Taylor and WMC seems to be for the very same issue...

We fixed two different bugs actually.  My commit was for the ballistic weapon problem and WMC's was for bad handling of wing numbers for destroyed/departed ships.

[MP-Ryan]

@MP-Ryan: Again, mantis it? 

Taylor has generally said not to Mantis Xt build bugs - I wasn't sure if the same when for these recent builds or not.