[Flashblade]

This is just my opinion of course, after returning after a really long fs2 hiatus I came back to this and to Blue Planet WiH. There is some iconic music in here and by iconic I mean iconic to other franchises. Srsly guys the track of Dante's battle against Vergil from Devil May Cry 3? I hear this music and it completely pulls me out of Blue Planet and I am thinking of Devil May Cry and while the track is srsly awesome it just does not belong. I recognized some music form Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex as well. Same thing happens for me.

If you really want or have to leave all that in, the least you could do is for example credit Yoko Kanno for her music. That isn't really too much to ask if you take her work without permission. After all your composer did not create this and it should be made absolutely clear which are his tracks and which are not his.

[Scotty]

If you look in the credits you'll find proper attribution for all music tracks used in the production of Blue Planet.

[An4ximandros]

I'm gonna play the Devil's Advocate here: Even though all the tracks are properly attributed, it still feels wrong.

You are basically giving away those tracks to anyone who uses the (included) mod tools.
And then there is the fact that Fair Use does not completely cover the usage of them. (The value of Fair Use as a defense drops dramatically the more material you use. Bp has tons of.)
Now, don't get me wrong here, I love those tracks and the timing and the effort from the team in using them, but the more I have thought about them, the more it seems they should be pulled.

Tough that would put a lot on Belisarius's shoulders. And makes it so obvious why the V tracks played at random rather than by scripts that involve hundreds of tracks.

[Phantom Hoover]

Yeah, honestly BP's use of music goes far beyond fair use and is tantamount to piracy. I wouldn't mind, but the fact that the mods of this site (some of whom are BP team members!) will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you mention piracy approvingly on the boards makes it all seem hypocritically moralistic.

[The E]

We're always open for suggestions in that regard. What we are not open to is a blanket demand that we have to change them (unless, of course, you ARE a rights holder. Then we'll certainly change the tracks), especially when it is NOT accompanied by workable suggestions for replacements.

[Phantom Hoover]

Loving your policy that rights holders have to ask you in person to remove music when their copyrights are supposed to make that stipulation for you.

[The E]

Are you going to be constructive, or will you just continue to snark?

EDIT: Oh, and should we also pull TBP, Diaspora and WCS while we're at it? Or Wings of Dawn? Or any of the multitude of mods that have used third-party music?

[Phantom Hoover]

No. You should abolish your hardline anti-piracy stance on the forums.

[Aesaar]

Is music on youtube piracy too?

[General Battuta]

It's something we constantly worry about (and we're always playing with our music selection), but on legal grounds we view our work as basically the same as a YouTube fan mix under fair use.

Phantom, the BP team is not particularly related to HLP's stance on piracy.

Sorry to hear you found some of the tracks disruptive, Flashblade, but we make it absolutely clear which of our tracks we made and which we didn't, and we're in a fairly limited situation resource-wise.

[swashmebuckle]

I'd be happy to chip in a track or two to help get BP off of dubious legal footing.

[AdmiralRalwood]

You are basically giving away those tracks to anyone who uses the (included) mod tools.

Well, it's pretty much as easy to get a song from the VPs as it is to get it off of YouTube...

[Veers]

I rather enjoyed all the music, no matter where is was 'pulled' from.

Sure, I recognise a lot of it. But for it, it is still BP. Same goes with the music from WoD

[Flak]

Maybe I should start making music too and keep them free like some other guy do. I have no experience unfortunately.

[Scotty]

No. You should abolish your hardline anti-piracy stance on the forums.

So the solution to BP using music tracks is to... become more lax on theft?  I think you have some wires crossed here.  The fact that there is one exception on Hard Light (which is very clearly not being used for profit or financial gain) that already consistently looks for alternatives does not imply condoning piracy, nor should it.

[Flak]

Be careful though people, talking about piracy by itself is a big flame bait anywhere on the internet. Don't go hardcore to either side.

[qwadtep]

Loving your policy that rights holders have to ask you in person to remove music when their copyrights are supposed to make that stipulation for you.

That's how DMCA works, yes.

So the solution to BP using music tracks is to... become more lax on theft?  I think you have some wires crossed here.  The fact that there is one exception on Hard Light (which is very clearly not being used for profit or financial gain) that already consistently looks for alternatives does not imply condoning piracy, nor should it.

There's waaay more than one exception, especially where music is concerned. We just ignore the elephant as long as it isn't stepping on anybody.

[Naz]

FWIW, as someone who hadn't heard most of these third-party tracks in their original context, I think BP uses them quite effectively.  I recognized Icarus after it was pointed out on the forums, but that was the only one and as much as I liked DE:HR, I thought Axem's solemn, intense cutscene was a more memorable usage of the track. 

Not to say that the music can't immediately wreck immersion; I just wanted to share my positive impression.  And my nitpick that BP's sometimes a bit heavy on the metal.
attempting to jam enemy beam weapon targeting

[An4ximandros]

Handshake Successful, Target Locked, Beam Strike Imminent.

Thing is Battuta, does the Law consider it on the same grounds as a YT video? And isn't the law trying to purge that exploit? What worries me most is that given how far the deep end mods go around here, this could be a legitimate life-threat to this community.

[Familiar]

If somebody feels that he is pirating (ARRRR!) music by playing BP, he should adjust music volume to 0 and turn on some track from his own legaly purchased music.
But please don't try to make things more complicated for BP authors or for players who actually just play and greatly enjoy BP.
Thank you in advance.