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Offline karajorma

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Re: 3.6.9 Release Candidate 5
Inferno no longer breaks multiplayer. You can play FS2_Open online using an Inferno build. You will however break your pilot file if you ever try to go back to a non-Inferno build. That's why the pilot changes are needed.
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So, the pilot changes would see the going away of a standard and an inferno build then? Or would they still be seperate but more/completely compatible?
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Re: 3.6.9 Release Candidate 5
It should hopefully get rid of the Inferno build.
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Re: 3.6.9 Release Candidate 5
Isn't it about time for a new Release Candidate?
I've been avoiding RC5 because of the shield bug, and I haven't bothered downloading a CVS build since RC1 came out.  Is the next Release Candidate pretty much going to be whatever's in CVS right now?

 

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how come my shields wont recharge?  I have the 3.6.9 RC5 Installed with the 3.6.8 Zeta Vps and the extra files required for it and the alpha patches.

Why dont they recharge???
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Re: 3.6.9 Release Candidate 5
Did you actually read this thread? New 3.6.9 build is already there, multi_test or the light_test builds
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Did you actually read this thread? New 3.6.9 build is already there, multi_test or the light_test builds
That still doesn't address my point in saying that I think we need an official RC6
Updated builds in the middle of threads are too easy to ignore, and I could probably also achieve the same effect from downloading from CVS, no?

The point of having an official RC6 would be to have one standard build that we know everyone is testing.

 
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How many RC's we gonna have before 3.6.9 official is released? I don't remember this happening for 3.6.8
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Re: 3.6.9 Release Candidate 5
That still doesn't address my point in saying that I think we need an official RC6
Updated builds in the middle of threads are too easy to ignore, and I could probably also achieve the same effect from downloading from CVS, no?
It hasn't been time for RC6, too many little fixes have been going on and we don't want to release a dozen RC builds.  Either use the light_test build, use RC5, or wait for the official RC6 build.  There is not ETA for it though, just when it's ready.

The code that the RC builds are made with and the that the CVS builds are made with is NOT the same.  The RC builds are coming from a stable code branch, the CVS builds are from the unstable code branch.  All bug fixing effort is focused on the stable branch right now so you aren't likely to get any help with problems you have on normal CVS builds until after 3.6.9 is officially released.  Use standard CVS at your own risk.


How many RC's we gonna have before 3.6.9 official is released? I don't remember this happening for 3.6.8
There was no 3.6.8, we skipped it.  For 3.6.7 I think that there were about 7 or 8 test builds before release.  We were just a lot less organized about it then than we are now.

And there will be at least one more RC build for 3.6.9, when we're ready to release it.  3.6.9 official will also be released when it's ready.  There is still a lot of work going on behind the scenes.

 

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The code that the RC builds are made with and the that the CVS builds are made with is NOT the same.  The RC builds are coming from a stable code branch, the CVS builds are from the unstable code branch.  All bug fixing effort is focused on the stable branch right now so you aren't likely to get any help with problems you have on normal CVS builds until after 3.6.9 is officially released.  Use standard CVS at your own risk.


Yep. There are only a few good reasons to use a CVS at the moment.

1) You're developing a campaign which needs an Inferno build.
2) You're developing a campaign which uses the enhanced Team Loadout options (I can dream that someone is using it surely! :) )
3) You're developing a campaign which uses WMCs new limbo code
4) You've had a problem with Taylor's light test build and you want to see if the same problem exists in CVS so the coders have more info to resolve it

That's pretty much it. I wouldn't use CVS for anything else. I certainly wouldn't use it as the standard build I use when playing FS2.


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There was no 3.6.8, we skipped it.  For 3.6.7 I think that there were about 7 or 8 test builds before release.  We were just a lot less organized about it then than we are now.

And we paid the price as a result. 3.6.7 was current for about all of a month and then we were telling everyone to upgrade to CVS builds to solve problems with dual core CPUs and then a whole host of other problems. The idea is to not have that happen this time. 3.6.9 should be stable when you get it. we may end up having to release a 3.6.9.1 build if we find a major flaw but you should never have to download a CVS build to solve a problem (except possibly as a temporary fix).

The only people who should be using CVS from now on are mod devlopers and bug testers. You should never see someone with one or two posts being told to get a CVS build again with luck. :)

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And there will be at least one more RC build for 3.6.9, when we're ready to release it.  3.6.9 official will also be released when it's ready.  There is still a lot of work going on behind the scenes.

Yep. It's not as if we're sitting on our hands. Taking a quick look at the commit logs I see about 20 different commits for the last week alone. That means at least 20 different bug fixes and improvements. We don't want to delay the release of 3.6.9 any more than we have to but the quality of the code is improving with every day we make you wait so the end result will be worth it :)
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CVS builds are also important as they allow me and anyone else to track when bugs were introduced into CVS. This can simplify bug hunting and allow up to pinpoint exact commits that might have broken something.
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Yeah. I meant to write that as part of reason 4 but got distracted :)
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Re: 3.6.9 Release Candidate 5
upcoming RC6 will have various autopilot fixes in it
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**cough** please fix the bug with the 3rd primary also. It's vital for us :) **cough**
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PLEASE!!  I cant get my shields to recharge...

Someone directed me to this thread but I dont see anything to fix the problem!

I'm using 5.4.1 Launcher, 3.6.8 Zeta VPs, etc etc etc...
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the speech system needs to be fixed. It plays regaurdless of their being a wav file or not.
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Re: 3.6.9 Release Candidate 5
**cough** please fix the bug with the 3rd primary also. It's vital for us :) **cough**
You'll have to bug someone with access to the data though, or provide some basic mission/data for us to test with.  I don't know how many devs actually have access to your betas, I just know that I'm not one of them.  Makes fixing this sort of bug rather difficult.  :)


the speech system needs to be fixed. It plays regaurdless of their being a wav file or not.
That one deffinitely needs to be in Mantis.  I don't have the ability to actually test/replicate this so it's not something that I can fix, but I'm sure that either Goober5000 or karajorma might take a crack at it.

 

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Re: 3.6.9 Release Candidate 5
light, it's newer.