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Offline AdmiralRalwood

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Re: Video game journalism and the Orlando Shootings
He just did above, hound him now. Yet I'm sure you won't.
"RPS" is not a person, and even if it were you were still the first one to name names. I'm not "hounding" you; I'm just asking you what criteria you used. If you're unable to supply any, nobody can possibly provide examples of people matching that criteria that also liked Saints Row, which coincidentally means nobody can actually disagree with you. Now that's a bad-faith argument if ever I saw one.

EDIT: I didn't notice he mentioned Jim Sterling. You're still the first one to name names; rest of the point stants.
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Offline Ghostavo

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Re: Video game journalism and the Orlando Shootings
He just did above, hound him now. Yet I'm sure you won't.
"RPS" is not a person, and even if it were you were still the first one to name names. I'm not "hounding" you; I'm just asking you what criteria you used. If you're unable to supply any, nobody can possibly provide examples of people matching that criteria that also liked Saints Row, which coincidentally means nobody can actually disagree with you. Now that's a bad-faith argument if ever I saw one.

EDIT: I didn't notice he mentioned Jim Sterling. You're still the first one to name names; rest of the point stants.

So let me get this straight, he mentions "censors" first, and I'm the one who has to give a criteria to describe that?

You could construe anyone who likes Saints Row as a "censor" using what he said, but you have a problem with me using one of the most known and controversial game critics to disagree with him?

You are trying to use my usage of the same term as him to discredit my argument that the people who surround themselves in the controversy of "that's sexist" will not find anything not to be sexist. If you have a problem with the term censor, complain with the one who used it first. Which again, was not me. I don't have to agree/disagree with the term in my responses to it. Hell I even put quotes on it on my first usage.

As for the reasons.

I placed the link because, for one she's currently the most visible game critic, and second, it's (almost) impossible for her not to find a game that has any form of nudity as "sexist" or "problematic" so I knew she would not find Saints Row "ok".

But again, you are not questioning him, because... dunno... reasons surely.
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Offline AdmiralRalwood

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Re: Video game journalism and the Orlando Shootings
he mentions "censors" first
Yeah, but he was using it in response to Luis using the words "censorship" and "censor" in this post so before playing the "they started it" game, why don't you take your own advice?
How about you actually read the replies?

As for the reasons.

I placed the link because, for one she's currently the most visible game critic, and second, it's (almost) impossible for her not to find a game that has any form of nudity as "sexist" or "problematic" so I knew she would not find Saints Row "ok".
Unless you're telling me that you saw the word "censors" and took that to mean "video game critics", in which case there's clearly no point in trying to converse with you in any known language, or "video game critics who have specifically criticized sexism", in which case there are so many examples of such liking Saints Row that I would only direct you towards Google rather than trying to enumerate them all here, then that's still not actually an answer.

But again, you are not questioning him, because... dunno... reasons surely.
Yes... reasons like "you were the one who named specific individuals first and didn't elaborate on how they were 'censors'", as already mentioned. Multiple times.
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<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

Offline Ghostavo

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Re: Video game journalism and the Orlando Shootings
The so-called ---> "censors" <--- generally love that series, and last I checked it involved beating people to death with a purple dildo at some point.

Take it up with Det. Bullock and Luis Dias and the previous replies.
You're the one who picked Anita Sarkeesian as being "one of them", so it's your criteria that are relevant here.

If you are not going to bother to read the rest of the thread.

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Perhaps you aren't paying attention, but several countries are indeed considering banning or censoring games and other media that may fall into these nagging silly characterizations of "sexism", as labeled by the most paranoic autistic minds I've ever encountered in the nets. Do you think those things are just "opinions"? You're being naive.

Which critic is always throwing accusations of sexism in video games again? Det. Bullock picked censor from that and I merely used it not to interrupt the flow of the conversation.

How about you actually read the replies?
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Re: Video game journalism and the Orlando Shootings
At 10 pages long and a nice back and forth argument afoot, I'd say this has run its course.

Thread locked.

Please play nice in future guys.