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Offline Commander Zane

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Re: WoD discussion thread
Looks like it's getting recognized in a French gaming site as well.

 

Offline Lorric

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Free Standalone game, perhaps it could lure some people who have never played Freespace before to make a purchase after playing this...

 

Offline Lorric

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I know the names of the people in the headanis that weren't named. I don't think I missed anyone. Because unless Spoon is planting fake names in there, that's what they're called in FRED. :)
Spoiler:
The Cyrvan in the opening is Valria (Isa of course is also there), the woman on the Ostfront is Lena and the Cyrvan that shows up in that mission is Listra.

 

Offline niffiwan

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Oops... potential spoilers ho!

Spoiler:
I was intrigued by the dream-cutscene where you have the Cyrvan  fleet attacking something above your point of view.  There's a Hertak capship that jumps in and is almost instantly destroyed, presumably not by the Cyrvan's since they're all firing up. You start to pan up to see what they're attacking but it fades to black before you get there. Could they be fighting the Fir'kyr? Dawn was supposed to be the only one able to interface with Infi in WoD1, what if that has the potential to go horribly wrong and that's why the Cyrvans are all worried about Dawn and are treating her like an "evil artifact"? :)
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Offline Lorric

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Re: WoD discussion thread
Oops... potential spoilers ho!

Spoiler:
I was intrigued by the dream-cutscene where you have the Cyrvan  fleet attacking something above your point of view.  There's a Hertak capship that jumps in and is almost instantly destroyed, presumably not by the Cyrvan's since they're all firing up. You start to pan up to see what they're attacking but it fades to black before you get there. Could they be fighting the Fir'kyr? Dawn was supposed to be the only one able to interface with Infi in WoD1, what if that has the potential to go horribly wrong and that's why the Cyrvans are all worried about Dawn and are treating her like an "evil artifact"? :)

Spoiler:
You can move your ship and look around before you jump. It's actually a combined Cyrvan/Zy/Cordi fleet. There are Zy on the left and a Cordi ship in the back. That got my attention right away as soon as I started playing it. And the Hertak ship jumps in and is immediately obliterated by something else before your own fleet gets crushed. There's a ship I don't know firing up as well (opened FRED to see what, it's Cordi. I also know what's up top, but I don't think that's our culprit, it's just serving as something to shoot at, there's a Fura'ngle Arbiter up there.) The Fir'Kyr are certainly a big possibility. Interestingly, in FRED, they have their own team in the list of teams. Now, I had thought beforehand of the Hertak prophecy from the first game, about how they were gathering their thralls to battle an ancient race that will return to destroy them. So maybe we all end up joining forces to face that race? Hopefully not after having been subjugated by the Hertak. Who knows, the Cyrvans could be part of the Hierarchy. But they have their own team too, so I doubt it. There's a Hierarchy team as well. I hadn't thought of the Fir'Kyr though. The name was known to me, but I had somehow imprinted them in my mind as the race the Cyrvans took under their wing, when that race is in fact the Yehio. That little wiki article says "the Fir'Kyr are an ancient species, as old or even older than the Aleyurians." So this could be the race the Hertak were talking about and we'll get to meet them. I think it's a good possibility. Infi was made by the Aleyurians though. But yes, that was something unique about Dawn. The Prometheus Frame is in the game, and that was but a light fighter of the Aleyurians and yet had incredible destructive power. If an evil faction could get Dawn to awaken something that was substantially higher up the totem pole than a light fighter...
EDIT: Apologies for some confusion that may have been caused, message has been edited after watching the cutscene again.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2015, 09:21:43 pm by Lorric »

 

Offline Lorric

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Re: WoD discussion thread
Big spoiler:

Spoiler:
The Fura'ngle Arbiter I mentioned in the previous post is on the Fir'Kyr team.

 

Offline niffiwan

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Re: WoD discussion thread
That's certainly quite interesting. However I wonder if using the contents of the mission files is a good indication of what's going on, i.e. only 'what we see' is accurate to the story.  Maybe the ship being targeted is just a placeholder until the appropriate model is built?
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m|m: I think I'm suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Bmpman is starting to make sense and it's actually written reasonably well...

 

Offline Lorric

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Yeah, I said the same thing. My prediction is the ship is a placeholder.

 

Offline rubixcube

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Stupid question: Is spoon actually Japanese? Or does he just really like anime?
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Offline niffiwan

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Re: WoD discussion thread
Or does he just really like anime?

AFAIK this                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Offline AdmiralRalwood

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Is Spoon actually Japanese?
Not unless Japan conquered the Netherlands while I wasn't looking.
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schrödinbug (noun) - a bug that manifests itself in running software after a programmer notices that the code should never have worked in the first place.

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(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

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<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
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<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

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Offline rubixcube

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Re: WoD discussion thread
Is Spoon actually Japanese?
Not unless Japan conquered the Netherlands while I wasn't looking.

Well, stranger things have happened.
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Offline Flak

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Re: WoD discussion thread
Is Spoon actually Japanese?
Not unless Japan conquered the Netherlands while I wasn't looking.

Both Japan and the Netherlands have conquered my land in the past at some point. Irony?

 

Offline -Norbert-

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For me it'd be great if Japan invaded the Netherlands. Imagien how much the import-cost would drop if the postal service would have to send a package through only two or three other countries instead of literally to the other side of the globe. :P

 

Offline Spoon

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Macross Delta talk split and send to general discussion
Urutorahappī!!

[02:42] <@Axem> spoon somethings wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> im happy with these missions now
[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

 

Offline QuakeIV

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So I just played this after the low level drama in the blue planet subforum, and I have to say this was quite enjoyable.  I eagerly await more.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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You should also play the "old" WoD, it's a lot of fun.

And while the information isn't exactly up-to-date due to NuWoD changing things, it'll still give you a better feeling for what the universe is like and what may come in future releases in some form or the other.

Did I already mention that it's fun to play? Because it is.

Edit: Speaking of which... is there still a download link for the old WoD around somewhere?
« Last Edit: October 16, 2016, 04:48:54 am by -Norbert- »

 
Check WoD Archive. ;)

 

Offline Commander Zane

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TIL playing a few campaigns with the original controls and going straight back to fighting Cyrvans is a good way to get your ass stomped. :P

 

Offline Spoon

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 :lol:

(Remember that you can easily swap between the FS2 default control scheme and the WoD setup by pressing the 'defaults' button in the control config.)
Urutorahappī!!

[02:42] <@Axem> spoon somethings wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> im happy with these missions now
[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them