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FreeSpace Releases => Asset Releases => Topic started by: Black Wolf on December 29, 2011, 03:42:43 am
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After the Cumulative modelling article got put onto the wiki, Darius contacted me to see if I still had a copy of this model UVed. I didn't - I'd lost it during one of many HDD transfers (I suspect it was on a portable drive that I dropped and fried). So I got in touch with Water, who'd UVed it way back when, and thankfully he did still have a copy. Here it is:
Zippyshare Download (http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/58240954/file.html)
Please download and keep a copy of this somewhere, so we wont fall into the trap we did last time, where nobody knew who still had a copy. :p
Anyway, I've begun texturing it again (my last textures were lost along with the model, but they weren't super far along), and Darius has also expressed an interest in doing so, but there's no timeline on either of those efforts (I have a lot to do at the moment for TI, and I'm not sure what Darius has in mind), so if anyone else wants to get into it and try themselves, that'd be great. However, I would ask that anyone who does texture it consider the source of the model, and resist the urge to keep it exclusive for one mod or another. It was always a community project, let's keep it that way.
Oh, and yes, I could have bumped the old topic, but there's no reason to necro it IMO. So let's not, please. :)
EDIT:See below for Darius' texs
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Great to hear you're working on it, when I first found that model in the wiki I was pretty impressed, i'm glad it's being worked on again. Curious to see results when finished. :)
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For some reason I can't open the .obj version in Max.
EDIT: Also, what happened to the "tblisi" of the Moscow that Water proposed by the end of the project?
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Zippyshare Download (http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/58240954/file.html)
Please download and keep a copy of this somewhere, so we wont fall into the trap we did last time, where nobody knew who still had a copy. :p
Fear not! For I still had a copy of it backed up including the UV Map (which in turn lead me to create the Wiki article because the idea was so awesome). ;7
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Right, let's make this a reality! I'll post what I come up with. It's too good a project for it to remain dead.
EDIT: Is this still a collaborative effort or is it ok if I just put my own spin on the textures?
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Can't we just do both? There are plenty of retextures and variations floating around of other models.
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Can't we just do both? There are plenty of retextures and variations floating around of other models.
Not... really. Collaborative texturing crashed and burned - for whatever reason (and I can think of a few - too stylistically independent, too time consuming, not enough texturers, maybe others), texturing just doesn't lend itself to collaborative efforts the way modelling did. So I will putter along with my texture, Darius will putter along with his and at the end we might get one (or two) versions finally finished.
Going for a Grey/Green colour scheme for mine, for the record. Will throw up some pics when I'm a bit further in.
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Pretty similar to the colour scheme I was thinking :P
(http://blueplanet.hard-light.net/moscow3.jpg)
EDIT: First retexture pretty much done. I'll post up the texture and psd template tomorrow after some final additions.
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Pretty awesome for a one-day work.
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Water did an amazing job with the UV map. It's tight, and a dream to texture with.
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Double post.
First set of textures can be found here (http://www.mediafire.com/?pjc3trah9gmgpaa). Just has diffuse, shine and glow maps. Also packaging a dae of the model. Normal will come later once I finish panelling.
I've also uploaded the psd (http://www.mediafire.com/?ca7lalnzbz9ystp) to help those who want to texture the moscow themselves.
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OK, well, now we have some textures. I'm probably about halfway done on mine (I'll throw up some pics when there's a bit less black space on the map, probably tonight or tomorrow).
Also, sooner or later we're going to need to turret this thing - if anyone has some ready made turrets that they think would fit, post 'em up, but we're more likely to use them if they're already UVed (although texturing can be handled at this end if need be - Darius and I have somewhat similar colour schemes, but stylistically quite different texs, and one or the other of us will probably need to redo any turret texs anyway).
We're going to need both single an multipart - possibly even two types of multipart, since there're these nice platforms that look like they deserve some very prominent turrets - look on the dorsal surface, the two irregular octagons. Or, they might be cool spots to mount some sensors or something. So, if anyone has anything they'd like to contribute, I think we'd definitely like to see them.
Also, if anyone's feeling really community minded, the LODding process will need to be started eventually - any volunteers?
[EDIT]I'm a tad slower than Darius, but I am moving along - Imagebin (http://imagebin.org/191398)
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I just love Darius' version, dedicated plates scheme makes this ship very unique, otherwise parts of tile textures preserves classic Freespace feel in this ship. Can't wait for the final result :yes:.
BW's version is also very nice, looks like a darker, maybe stealth version of standard ship. Would be great as special ops version for SOC, but I can't say more until I see full textures.
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So now we have two articles on the same ship:
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Cumulative_Projects
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTBs_Moscow
What should we do? :confused:
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one page documents the progress of a unique and interesting project, the other is the user ships page which is a concise summery of the ship in it's downloadable form, my vote is they both stay as though they are related placing the project info would needlessly blote the user ships page and merging into the project page would vastly reduce the ships exposure to new community members, though they should link to each other at least now.
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Ah, dude! Wrong article! That's the GTBs Moscow! You know, the really really big one? I'll move it.
Just to clarify: The GTBs Moscow is not the GTCv Moscow. The GTBs Moscow is an off-shoot of the cumulative projects. It also uses tile maps. Moscow has a disambiguation page that refers to both the GTCv and the GTBs Moscow. The model in this thread is the GTCv Moscow. The GTCv Moscow is UV Mapped unliked the GTBs Moscow, which is the model that came out of the Cumulative Modeling Project, abandoned during the Cumulative Texturing Project, and revived when Water gave Black Wolf and Darius the link.
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Ahh, okay. I thought the GTBs Moscow was also part of the project, not knowing that the battleship designation applied only to the stretchmap version. I had presumed that the model was re-designated a battleship shortly after it was abandoned.
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Nah, it's cool. Everyone makes mistakes. The project has always been the GTCv Moscow. That was Black Wolf's original intent because it was not too big as to be overused but not to small so that it would only require a few modelers (from what I remember, anyway).
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Would this be ready to be used in-game, with turrets and all?
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I'm assuming nothing's changed since Black Wolf's post ie. no turrets, no LODs.
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Damn. :(
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I think I could make simple conversion of this model, based on Darius' texture. Turrets, pof data etc. No lods and debris, someone else must do it.
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Really busy with TI stuff at the moment, since we're pushing towards release. But, if nobody else does it, I will probably turret the Moscow sometime in the next few weeks.
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link in first post is dead, have mirrored files here (http://www.mediafire.com/?tkj5u249b7a64dr)
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...and the first conversion is done!
(http://i50.tinypic.com/mij6tx.jpg)
No LODs and debris for now. I would appreciate if someone polite make them for Moscow. Otherwise, it's fully playable. Consider it as test release.
Download: http://www.mediafire.com/file/7447tng759bqolt/Moscow_Converted.pof [You need texture from Darius' model if you want to use it somewhere].
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I was going to do that but I was at work all day. :(
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Interesting, it kinda looks like a GTVA take on the Solaris.
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Dunno about a take on the Solaris, but I think it looks great! Nice job texturing to Betrayal and anybody else who was involved.
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certainly has a mix of GTVA corvette/destroyer and Solaris about it
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Looks great, I faintly remember this model a long time ago, when was it started?
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Love it
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(http://i.imgur.com/kZTSPe9.gif)
I promised myself I'd do up some more textures, it's taken me only...three years to do it?
Included table has some placeholder weapons. Add your own loadout please, I'm sure the ones I've got in there are horribly unbalanced.
(http://i.imgur.com/QIBswUl.jpg)
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It's alive! It's alive!
I miss it so much. Makes me giddy seeing it grow.
Let's call the chin version the Tbilisi based on conversations from the ancient thread!
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Updated glowmaps and glowpoints, some pics to show the textures better.
Swifty's HDR build with clipping engine glows.
Just realised the space in the front prongs for frontal cannons makes this a perfect candidate for capship command missions!
(http://i.imgur.com/G0735hc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1PFBIYP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kqUpupV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2mYqcVZ.jpg)
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and yet, zero point defenses, send in the Ursas.
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With the current ;7-effectiveness on those flares you could fire literally 100,000 bombs at that ship and never get a hit.
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This ship has crazy amounts of point defense.
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This is going in BP right?
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Dammit I'm trying to make it more GTVA gunmetal grey than UEF plating. Clearly i need to work at it some more.
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It clearly looks GTVA. :yes:
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No, you were pretty clear. I think Darius just misread.
e: I really want to see this in a campaign!
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BritishShivans: My bad!
SDM: The Moscow makes its maiden appearance in JSRNerdo's Capship command mission! (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89373.msg1780432)
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That ship looks really cool. I like it! The arse on it reminds me of the Sulaco outta Aliens... in fact the general profile of that ship gives me that feel. I've always thought the Sulaco was a very cool looking ship as well!
Good work! :yes:
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Darius, that's awesome!
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Ok repackaging the Moscow as the GTCv Ophion.
Heavily-armoured warship conceptualised as a next-generation successor to the Deimos corvette, with turret loadout to reflect this.
Designed to get in close and wreck ****.
6x MGreen
6x Standard Flak
13x Terran Turret
4x AAA
2x Hornet box launchers
Also packaged with PBR maps.
Might make a wiki article later.
{Download (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xa3c1ukfru6tbsa/ophion_PBR.7z?dl=0)}
(http://i.imgur.com/gIb3EyN.jpg)
EDIT: So I heard talk that this ship was undergunned for its size! Added two new heavy beams and five blob multiparts.
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Well... After a long time I've noticed pretty strange problem. This model was designed and later modelled with no any turret setup plan at all. My older conversion have this problem as well. I know fixing this would require remodelling whole thing, but currently every turret setup will look generic o___O.
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Thank you Darius for the ship!
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I've noticed wiki update, redownloaded this and I must say I'm impressed by new multipart turrets. Both beams and flaks. Great designs! They only need somewhat better smoothing.
At the other things, mod_strip texture is not present in the package. Can we get it?
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The turret smoothing is pretty terrible. If you can point me towards some neat multipart beam turrets I'll use that instead.
I'll update the package with the missing texture.
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As far as I know, there are not many multipart beams available here. TBH I doubt if there are any.
Gimme flak texture and I will resmooth both of them for ya :D
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Updated and uploaded.
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I will take care about some things that require addonital work, like smoothing, LODs, debris... Yup. After some inactivity, I'm trying to be awesome again :D.
Darius, I have question for ya. This model has a hangarbay but geometry of the ship does not reflect it anyhow. Fighters just start from random plate underneath spinal part of the ship. Can I modiffy the geometry to add some good hangarbay?
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I'd definitely support something like that.
I had played around with adding BlackWolf's Deimos fighterbay module to the underside of the prow, but because I have no modelling skills it was nothing more than a hack and an unhappy fit.
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(http://i68.tinypic.com/2zgb3tj.jpg)
I already have it with remodelled hangarbay, LODs, resmoothed LOD0 and turrets. Deimos's debris were removed and I made my own ones. They are still far from being dream debris at all, but I kinda like them. I also remapped missile launchers and made a new monopart turrets to decrase number of individual textures used by the model:
To be done:
- Turret setup [started]
- Nameplates
- Reconversion.
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I finished :D
[link removed. Scroll down for the full package]
Changelog:
- New LODs
- New Debris
- Resmoothed
- New monopart turret models
- Remapped torpedo launchers to avoid too many texture entries.
- Multipart turrets resmoothed
- Minor texture adjustments, like horizontal-going windows on the bridge
- Fixed mass
- Fixed dockpoints
- Proper place for hangarbay
- Nameplates ^^
- Probably also other fixes that I don't remember at all.
It's a drag'n'drop replacement for older model. Hangar placement may minimally affect mission balance if you use it, as it's facing front in my version.
Probably needs testing. Anyway it's ready to smash some 'buntu marauders ;P.
Edit: My package is just pof. In that case it will require proper rerelease.
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Aaargh, you just had to finish this just as I made my pof edits to the original version for my secret minicampaign!
Eagerly downloading anyway!
e: Problem found: No texture for the missile turrets.
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Eh. It requires everything from Darius' release. Everything except the old model. Any missing textures can be obtained from his package.
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Seems to work properly. Go ahead and update yours with final version (http://www.mediafire.com/download/13mmrssa3i2w5up/Oprion_Final.rar). This is full release with all textures and tables.