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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
is that a.... CASE?  o.0
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
But why "xtreme gaming"? FSO can actually run on a potato.
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Right up until you turn shadows on :P

 

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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Isn't that the Sath model form the current Media VPs, (says Captain Obvious)?  Did someone at that convention ask permission from the Team (or Volition) before using it?
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
I'm no expert but it seems to me that would fall pretty solidly within fair use.
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
That's completely, totally wrong.
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Dats pretty cool
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
That's completely, totally wrong.

Maybe then you can either explain or refrain from being a smug ass about it?
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
That reminds me, there's an (Xfinity?) ad on Twitch that has what looks suspiciously like a Kentauroi. I'll have to pay more attention next time it comes up.

 

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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
That's completely, totally wrong.

Maybe then you can either explain or refrain from being a smug ass about it?
Or you could try reading something about fair use before saying something would "fall pretty solidly within" it. For starters, this would obviously seem to be a commercial usage (unless you're suggesting Gigabyte slapped their brand all over this for non-profit educational reasons?). Your best argument would be that it doesn't commercially harm either Volition or Rga_Noris(? I think that's who modeled that version, but somebody correct me if I'm misremembering that), but if that's your only argument, you're on very weak footing for arguing Fair Use.
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<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
That's completely, totally wrong.

Maybe then you can either explain or refrain from being a smug ass about it?
Or you could try reading something about fair use before saying something would "fall pretty solidly within" it. For starters, this would obviously seem to be a commercial usage (unless you're suggesting Gigabyte slapped their brand all over this for non-profit educational reasons?). Your best argument would be that it doesn't commercially harm either Volition or Rga_Noris(? I think that's who modeled that version, but somebody correct me if I'm misremembering that), but if that's your only argument, you're on very weak footing for arguing Fair Use.

... Unless it turns out that the modeler actually works for Gigabyte now :p

 

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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
... Unless it turns out that the modeler actually works for Gigabyte now :p
Except it's still based on Volition's IP, so they'd also need to give permission.

Which would still, by the way, not be "Fair Use" (which specifically is for using it without getting permission).
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schrödinbug (noun) - a bug that manifests itself in running software after a programmer notices that the code should never have worked in the first place.

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<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 
Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Slapping your brand all over someone else's work so you can use it for advertising is not limited use in a transformative work for the purposes of commentary, criticism or parody, which is what fair use is actually for.
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Offline Dragon

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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
On the other hand, didn't Rga_Noris has release his model without any licensing information (I can't find any in his thread, at least)? If someone just found the model on Google or somesuch, how was he supposed to know that it's based on some obscure, ancient video game? While the Sathanas itself is :v: IP, this particular model was made by Rga_Noris and I don't think :v: has any rights to it (that said, the model in itself is in a legal gray area, too).

It probably still isn't exactly legal, but IMO, it should be. They're not even using Sathanas itself (as in, any of the story behind the design), just the shape, which to most people is just a cool shape. I see no intention to hijack :v: property for advertising.

 

Offline CP5670

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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
It would be hard to make any serious case on this. I don't think any license (if we have one at all) would be binding since the models are based on commercial IP. A bigger question is, what was the point of this? I doubt anyone there would know about Freespace well enough to recognize the Sathanas, and if you don't know what it is it just looks some weird sculpture, especially in that color scheme.

 

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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
I think that's the point here.
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
I have a feeling there was some sort of contest and these were the winners, that's just what this looks like to me, but I have no evidence of that, so let this be the post that drives you to do more than mere speculation.
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Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
is that a.... CASE?  o.0

What do you mean?
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