I had a friend who has become much more manly that when we first met. Interestingly the reason we no longer talk has nothing to do with this topic, but is because of Israel.
Hehe, I lol'ed....
(we need a different rolleyes smiley where the guy has a smile or is laughing while rolling eyes, something to convey a "because of course it is..." reaction.)
Sandwich, what was your intent when you made this thread and how has it (or hasn't) met your expectations? You dropped a link, knew everything anyone was possibly going to say, and didn't even participate in any of the resulting discussion yourself. In the end, did you actually get something specific out of this thing, and if so, what and how?
My intent was truly what I stated from the outset. I wanted to find out what people thought about the article. I very quickly became evident that the general consensus was to attribute the negatives mentioned in the article to "bad parenting" rather than "gay parents", which could very well have been the case with the people in the article.
I'm very satisfied with how this thread has progressed. Mostly very civil debate about a highly-touchy subject matter.
The reason I haven't participated in anything is because life is very, very busy for me these days.
What I got from this thread is what I guess could be called a follow-up question, but not so much to the original article, but to the general discussion it spawned. Luis Dias wrote something very similar to my question, but it appears to have gotten overlooked:
2. If Gender dysphoria is an incompatibility between mind and body, and if mind is itself material (it is a brain), then isn't it possible that the "problem" rests in the brain, and not the body? What is the ethical or moral difference between trying to fix the body or trying to fix the brain?
The thought that was rolling around in my non-gender-fluid brain for a few posts before I reached Luis' post was this:
We have various definitions for insanity or other mental illnesses today. We've set various guidelines and boundaries in place. We say "That side is insanity, this side is sanity." At times perhaps we even arbitrarily—or at least according to a bell curve, majority rule, or some other imprecise method of determination—lay down those guidelines.
My question is, why are gender misidentification issues not considered mental illness or ailment of some sort? If, as Luis pointed out, the brain is an organ that can go wrong, how have we determined that gender issues aren't mental illness, but other things are?