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Offline Goober5000

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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
No worries.  Answering questions is a welcome break from fixing the forums and the other stuff I've been doing. :)

 

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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Once we reach Christmas break (unless I have to have surgery which is a possibility) give me stuff to do and I'll get some work done.  :nod:
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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
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Offline azile0

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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
I want to mirror a complaint from the first page about Mission 3.

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I failed the mission three times in a row, not having any idea what I was doing wrong. "Target Every Ship" is ludicrous because beyond the red popup, there's no way of knowing what's been scanned or not. I ended up just holding down H while flying around, still getting a failure. I thought there was something I had to do, so on my fourth try I attempted to blow up the volatile gas containers to distract the corvette, and failed (which is funny because that ended up being the solution). On the fifth run I tried engaging the fighters to lure away the corvette and failed. On the sixth I started searching far outside of the depot, thinking I was missing something because I was positive that I had scanned everything (apparently not!) and failed. I have literally never heard Zeta 1 comment on the gas miners, and now I know it's because I must have been 3001 meters away from one of them when I was holding down H.

Either way, that mission made me pull my hair out and nearly made me abandon what is otherwise an incredibly fun and well made campaign.

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So after reading through the thread, I got further in the mission than ever before! Then this happened! I realize it was because I started shooting a half second before I was "supposed" to, but come on.

« Last Edit: November 23, 2017, 11:38:26 pm by azile0 »
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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
I want to mirror a complaint from the first page about Mission 3.

Spoiler:
I failed the mission three times in a row, not having any idea what I was doing wrong. "Target Every Ship" is ludicrous because beyond the red popup, there's no way of knowing what's been scanned or not. I ended up just holding down H while flying around, still getting a failure.

The thing is, are you flying around randomly, or purposefully?  If you patrol the cargo depot systematically you should get a general idea of where you've been and where you are supposed to go next.

I'll see about adding some sort of additional marker that will tell you which ships have been scanned and which haven't.

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Spoiler:
So after reading through the thread, I got further in the mission than ever before! Then this happened! I realize it was because I started shooting a half second before I was "supposed" to, but come on.

Spoiler:
This isn't a case where you started shooting a half-second too early.  You are shooting a cargo container that is not involved in a transfer operation.  Notice the cargo display: "100% transferred" and not docked to anything.  You are supposed to find a cargo container where the transfer is in progress.

 

Offline azile0

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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
I see; I'm past the mission now, and I'm sorry if my message was grumpy. Now i'm running into technical issues.

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I don't know why, but my nebulas are totally broken. As others have mentioned, they're dazzlingly bright and I can't see ships until I'm literally on top of them. This made the ship scanning difficult, as I had to rely entirely on targeting display and 3D radar to navigate. Now I'm totally stuck on the mission where you need to TAG and disable multiple ships because I am too blind to find them reliably, because sensor range is also cut. How do I fix my nebula files so they're not so obnoxiously bright and opaque?
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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Decrease brightness or turn off background images in options would be my two guesses.
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Offline CKid

Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Have come across a bug in "Arachnicide". Before your capital ships can engage the installation, all shivan caps defending must be destroyed. I did that, however in the objective window, it reads one target still alive. All friendly ships just sit in place, beams silent.
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Offline PVD_Hope

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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Have come across a bug in "Arachnicide". Before your capital ships can engage the installation, all shivan caps defending must be destroyed. I did that, however in the objective window, it reads one target still alive. All friendly ships just sit in place, beams silent.

Does the bug repeat every time you play the mission? Do you have time to try it again?

Goober, do you want me to try and handle this?
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Offline CKid

Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Yes, I just played it a third time. Tasked with destroying 6 capships, but only 5 are there. Looking at the briefing, the missing ship is the SC Tvashtri.
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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
The SC Tvashtri is present in the mission in FRED. So you say that it's not appearing at all, or just that destroying it doesn't count towards the objective?
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Offline CKid

Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Not appearing at all. Here is a screenshot from the beginning of the mission.



No SC Tvashtri in the escort list or in sight.
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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
I see; I'm past the mission now, and I'm sorry if my message was grumpy. Now i'm running into technical issues.

It's all good.  Feedback helps.

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I don't know why, but my nebulas are totally broken. As others have mentioned, they're dazzlingly bright and I can't see ships until I'm literally on top of them.

This should not happen.  Please post this either on Mantis or on GitHub so that the SCP can take a look.  I'm not a graphics coder so I don't know what's wrong.

We did find that it works properly in 3.7.4.  Also, using the following command-line, it works on recent 3.8 builds for me:
Code: [Select]
-mod "scroll,mediavps_2014" -nospec -nomotiondebris -nonormal -noheight -nolightshafts -no_deferred

Goober, do you want me to try and handle this?

Yes, please.

Also, everyone should specify whether they downloaded the mod from the thread, from the FSO Installer, or from Knossos; and also when they last updated their files.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2017, 01:21:28 am by Goober5000 »

 

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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
I'm gonna get to your problem CKid, I've just got classes and other errands today, so it might take me a bit.
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Offline CKid

Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
It's cool. I'm in no rush and can replay the ISF branch in the mean time. As for what Goober was asking: FSO installer, last updated around 3-4 weeks ago.
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Offline PVD_Hope

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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
So the Tvashtri was present on the previous mission, Arachnophobia? Was it destroyed?

Incidentally it doesn't seem that there are any conditions for the Shivan capships' presence in Arachnicide, that is, if any of them were destroyed in Arachnophobia (is that even supposed to be possible?)  they might still show up in Arachnicide.
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Offline CKid

Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Yes, I remember I had ordered Delta wing to destroy the Tvashri, then thrash the Jaraxxus after neutralizing the Shivan AWACS. It could explain why the SC Jaraxxus begins the mission with 3% HP. Unfortunately the only way I can think to test this is to restart the campaign and keep an eye on all cruisers HP in Arachnophobia to see if it carries over to the next mission.
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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Goober, is it possible to start the campaign from Arachnophobia to test this? Where should I be looking in FRED to find out what conditions there are for the Tvashtri's presence? In the edit ship menu, it's arrival is just listed as "true"
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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
So by selecting the branching campaign start and ~k all the things to quickly get back to Arachnophobia, I checked to see if damaged and destroyed ships carried over. Here is the results:

All Shivan Cruisers carried their HP to the next mission except the SC Jaraxxus which I had Delta wing destroy. It returned with 20%.




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Offline PVD_Hope

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Re: RELEASE: The Scroll of Atankharzim, Part I
Thanks for doing this for me, I really did not have time to get to that today.

This is not right, the Jaraxxus certainly should not be there if it was destroyed previously. So the Tvashtri showed up with proper HP then? I need to determine which ships this problem affects.

And the Arachnicide directive still asked for the destruction of all six capships? Did you finish the mission to see if the directive played out right this time? (sorry for all the questions :P)
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