Every attempt to make a high level decision on HLP becomes another attempt to reckon past grudges.
Goober is super good at this, it distracts from having to discuss the issue at hand. Instead he can make personal remarks at me again. Spin an amazing narrative in which I am a nefarious villian.
I explicitly told you to discuss the subject without snark or condescension. Have a warning.
Oh nooo! A warning! You got me Goober, you won the argument.
Do you feel in charge now? Have you smitten down the mere user with your divine admin power? What a joke. You are objectively a hypocrite, you accuse me of bad tone while you have done nothing but try to make things personal. And then you abuse your admin position to try and get the last word.
You can't look at this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this and tell me those aren't inflammatory.
Hey that's cool, two can play your dumb game:
Demanding that forum tradition be changed to suit your personal preferences, ****posting about it, ignoring a global moderator's moderation action, and then taunting that global moderator are all extremely childish ways of making inquiries of the forum staff. Do you want us to treat you like a child? After all, according to your profile, you are a female 13-year-old located in a state of confusion.
Being condenscending as ****, calling me childish then proceeds to:
Now then, Spoon, I can see that your custom title ranting is not without merit. Accordingly, I have assigned you a suitable title.
*Gives me a backhanded title* Yeah, that was real mature of you.
And for goodness' sake, the absolute worst reason to change long-established tradition is because one user ****posted about it.
Accusing me of ****posting #1
I don't know if you're being dishonest or just oblivious. For the sake of a good faith discussion I'll assume the latter.
Says Karajorma is a either dishonest or oblivious
As for your impression that I hold any spite or ill will against Spoon, you are quite mistaken. I am concerned about the long-term effect on HLP if a single forum member can overturn literally years of HLP precedent based on nothing more than throwing a tantrum. And this is a mild tantrum compared to what we have experienced in the past.
Condescendingly says I am 'throwing a tantrum'
You are not the unilateral arbiter of what is and is not good policy.
Have to make mention of how ironic this is, considering you are treating HLP like, as NGTM-1R so nicely put it, your personal fiefdom.
Whether you feel it or not, Luis, that is precisely what Spoon is doing. His entire argument, starting from his first ****post in the previous thread, has been pure rhetoric.
Accusing me of ****posting #2
He's not participating in a good faith discussion.
Is that so?It was a backhanded title because Spoon made a ****post.
Again, #3 ****post mention. Admits to the title being backhanded again. Yup, continues being mature and being on point of the argument.
****posting is a terrible way to kick off a discussion, and it's led to mudslinging and rhetoric-slinging in most of the posts that followed.
#4 and the mudslinging has been done
entirely by you at this point. The discussion was going fine until you came in:
"Complaining that personal attacks are rampant when your first and second posts on the subject singled out other users and accused them of ****posting and making arguments in bad faith is merely darkly amusing." incidentally I am not the only one that sees it that way
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Your first post in this thread was certainly a ****post because a) it was posted in defiance of The E, and b) you taunted The E about it. Neither of which you have apologized for, by the way.
#5 and proof that you cannot read tone and context and are merely out to spin my posts in such a way that you can read them as personal attacks, Because:
Since the previous topic got locked by The_E for no reason given and since he is asleep now and can't read my pm, I'll just make a new thread. Seems like I win, checkmate The_E
Your first post in this thread was certainly a ****post because a) it was posted in defiance of The E, and b) you taunted The E about it. Neither of which you have apologized for, by the way.
I gotta say that this is open to interpretation. I read this completely as a joke, certainly not defiance or taunting (pure words are 7% of communication?)
I certainly read it that way.
3rd.
Everyone understood that it was joke. Several people are correcting you that your perspective is skewed.
The E then tells you exactly how it is:
This whole sideshow of Goob trying to defend my authority as a GlobMod is laughable. I am perfectly capable of reading context and intent, and I believe I know spoon well enough to tell when he's joking and not. A bit of lèse–majesté is perfectly alright in my book; the alternative, to treat every little tweak of the nose as a grave insult to THE AUTHORITAY, just doesn't lead to good places. The only reason I closed the first thread was because it did not go good places; Instead of discussing whether or not avatars should be allowed or not, it was all "HLP IS THE DEAD".
Which you then, again, blatantly ignore and spins in such a way that it fits your own narrative rather than doing a bit of self reflection and realizing you were wrong.
As for whether or not admins and mods give a damn about how this topic was brought up, turning a blind eye to ****posting (Spoon even acknowledged that he was ****posting) is only going to lead to more ****posts in the future. That is certainly something that admins and mods should be considering.
#6, you are really obsessed with '****posting' and feel the need to keep bringing it up and up despite several people telling you how bringing it up again and again isn't relevant to anything. You seem to put so much weight and value on it, it's perfect for dismissing that pesky Spoon and trying to make the conversation at hand seem like its not worth discussing.
"it was just a prank bro"
When something looks like a ****post and you acknowledge it as a ****post, then claim that it's not, when you say you're not going to engage anymore and then engage, you shouldn't be surprised when people don't believe you.
1. Dismissing my explaination on how I used the term, because **** Spoon, that filthy liar.
2. Personally attacking me by calling me a liar.
3. 'People' is
just you. But you wouldn't believe me if I told you the earth was round.
4. Spinning my post again in such a way that you can personally brush me off. Keep being classy and mature!
And yet, neither Spoon's first nor second resort was to bring it up calmly. I wonder why he skipped over those steps. (Oh no, I don't wonder: being "grr mad" is his thing.)
Nobody wonders about this but you, because everyone else can see the first two posts in the first thread were in jest. You may not consider it funny, that is fine. But you cannot be serious that you actually thought my previous thread was a serious temper tantrum in which I actually demanded a title like a small child. Everyone with some reading comprehension who knows me and my normal posting style (and my recent few silly posts in the starcitizen thread), can tell the locked topic was a jesting way to bring up a subject.
I already explained to you what I meant with ****post. You deliberately disregarded my explaination and called me a liar for it. Again, you personally attack me and try to dimmish my opinion's worth with backhandely taking my "grrr mad" jest and assigning it as a personality trait.
As for "excellent posts", when people have discussed the facts of the matter I respond in kind. You're not arguing the merits of the case as many of the people in this thread have actually tried to do. Your style seems to rely mostly on hand-waving beneath your special sense of humor combined with issuing ad hominems.
Holy **** the irony.
1. I'd love to see you try and discuss NGTM-1R excellent long post he made earlier. Without resorting to "it's tradition therefore nothing should change, ever"
2. I brought up the case to begin with, I have argued the merits, I have echo'd the merits I agree with and have nothing else to add to of posts from other members. But it's so nice of you to dismiss everything I have posted, again.
3. My 'Special sense of humor'? Really? Another personal attack? My sense of humor is not 'special' in any way. Bloody hell you keep being so disgustingly backhanded.
4. "combined with issuing ad hominems." I have not made any personal attacks worth a damn, and if I have gotten personal it was in counter to someone ad-homined'ing me first. And that's Black wolf and You.
Get off your high horse, Goober. Your opinions don't come with some kind of special gilding of truth (NGTM-1R is like a well of good quotes), in fact you have been repeately proven wrong by several people. It'd nice to see you have some self reflection here.
I can't wait for you to twist everything I say again. Or hell why stop there? Give me another warning so you can have the final word in the mudslinging that you started.
See why I didn't wanted to engage with you?
