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Screen flickering when playing the FSport with 2014 MediaVPs
...or the other MediaVPs, actually. Normal FSport works just fine. But if I try to run the MediaVPs version, I get the first loading screen, and then everything is constantly flickering to black every couple frames. It does stop if the game freezes, though. (Not a real freeze, just that little "loading freeze" when hitting the continue button or whatever. Although I expect if the game did properly freeze, it would stop the flickering as well.)

Now, I did do some digging, and I came up with:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89536.0

this thread, which was about the exact same issue. I was considering just posting in that thread -- this forum seems less bothered about zombies than some other boards I've come across -- but I decided to do this instead. Apologies if it was the wrong thing to do. Anyway, that guy solved it by running in administrator mode, which I tried to no avail. Of course I'm not sure what exactly he was running in administrator mode, but I tried doing it on everything just to be sure.

Anyway. I'm sorry, this is a crappy post. I'm just tired, I guess. If anyone has any thoughts, it'd be much appreciated...

 

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Re: Screen flickering when playing the FSport with 2014 MediaVPs
Please post your fs2_open.log file.  Instructions on how to do this can be found in this post.
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Re: Screen flickering when playing the FSport with 2014 MediaVPs
Right. Sorry, writing the post was just...dragging out, and I wanted to get it posted. I had a feeling I'd need to put up the log, but I couldn't remember enough to just go ahead and do so. I don't know.

Anyway, I got the log, with the rather significant caveat that the flickering didn't actually happen when I ran the debug file in windowed mode. I'll test it again in a moment to see if it was the debug file or the windowed mode that fixed the issue -- I'm guessing it was the file; I don't really see what effect the windowed mode would have. If that works, should I just use the debug when I want to play FSport? Or is there a downside?

Right, okay, yeah, this is the right one. I was pretty sure it just wasn't showing the .log because extensions were disabled.

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Re: Screen flickering when playing the FSport with 2014 MediaVPs
should I just use the debug when I want to play FSport? Or is there a downside?
Debug builds are unoptimized; unless you're using some sort of supercomputer (or playing a really non-taxing mission), your framerate will probably plummet into unplayability. Can you try it on a recent Nightly Build and see if you still have problems? They use a different renderer which may work better (or worse, until you disable shadows and/or deferred lighting if your computer can't handle those, but a GTX 970 should do all right there).
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schrödinbug (noun) - a bug that manifests itself in running software after a programmer notices that the code should never have worked in the first place.

When you gaze long into BMPMAN, BMPMAN also gazes into you.

"I am one of the best FREDders on Earth" -General Battuta

<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 
Re: Screen flickering when playing the FSport with 2014 MediaVPs
It turned out to be the windowed mode, actually, which I did not see coming. Still flickers if I run it in fullscreen with debug. I was able to play in the...what was it called, fullscreen window or something? Borderless window? I dunno. It's basically just a larger windowed mode -- for a while, but eventually an error or something happened. I probably should have remembered what it said exactly.

I'll try out the nightly build, assuming I can figure out how it actually works. For the longest time I couldn't get FSO to work at all, mostly because I had no idea the launcher existed. This is what I get for not reading the directions closely enough. The upshot is that I have like four copies of FSO and everything related to it in my Freespace folder...

 

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Re: Screen flickering when playing the FSport with 2014 MediaVPs
Go to the in-game settings and check that the lighting is on the highest setting. I got funny black stripes in screenshots once when I had accidentally lowered that particular value.
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Offline jr2

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Re: Screen flickering when playing the FSport with 2014 MediaVPs
Make sure you have the latest graphics drivers for your video card / or perhaps try downgrading a version or two if the latest one is the one with the issue.