Okay, so for starters: This thread isn't getting locked, people asking for it to be, just stop.
mjn.mixael: go take a break. Enjoy some sunshine. Play with your kids. I get your point and where you are coming from, but now it's getting a little out of hand in here, so take a breather.
Phantom Hoover: Whether or not anybody agrees on anything (much less to disagree) is irrelephant, but thank you for the reply anyway. We do want updates and progress out there just as badly as you do, but that doesn't stop us from being busy folk in our own right. As I mentioned, with the exception of moving, I've dealt with everything Bob did and then some.
iVoid and everybody else: FSU as a group, we're gatekeepers for the most part. That the majority of us are also content creators has been an unimaginable bonus as of late, but it hasn't always the case. We're just these people, doing this thing. And that doesn't mean that we have to be the only ones ever doing anything.
Because at the end of the day, it is a community project. Anybody and everybody can volunteer whatever, whenever. So in some regards, some of us are going to be a little sensitive to complaints that we're not getting everything done when people expect it, because it is rather frustrating feeling like we're the only ones that care when we're the only ones that are the ones doing it.
As previously mentioned, while not optimal, anybody else could have put together a VP collection of all the currently released ships into a bolt-on VP for the existing MediaVPs as a "tide folk over" effort, general good will, whatever.
What's out there right now is out there to be used, which is why it's out there. While what we are doing is very fairly large, putting a few ships into a package would be a wonderful way (and a vital part) of getting people used to the other parts of content creation and distribution, especially if they can eloquently and politely address "newcomer" shortfalls in the system that we have already gotten used to or adapted in such a way as to forget.
Given that tempuratures inside and outside have been rising of late, I'll be more than happy to continue engaging on any further conversation on this issue, which is why I feel it is important that it stays open. We'll address internally what we feel we need to, no worries about that. But as for what is external, lets discuss it, shall we?
