[Asprin]

Hello.

"When the Drakness Fall" campaign will be rereleased as soon as possible with some new updates. Let me introduce them:

I). New Minbari ship models adapted in game:

MINBARI MORSHIN CARRIER


MINBARI TROLIGAN ATTACK CRUISER


MINBARI TOROTHA ASSAULT FRIGATE


NOTES: Shine maps are in test mode. Ingame model versions by Abigale.

2). New Shadow ships adapted in game.

SHADOW HEAVY FIGHTER



SHADOW INTERCEPTOR


SHADOW ASSAULT


SHADOW HEAVY ASSAULT


SHADOW CARRIER


SHADOW CHASER


NOTES: Ingame model versions by Asprin.

3). New Drakh vessel adapted in game

DRAKH ADVANCED RAIDER


NOTES: Ingame model version by Asprin.

4). Firstones ships adapted in game

KIRISHIAC LORDSHIP


TORVALUS


THOUGHTFORCE


TRIAD TRIUMVIRON


NOTES: Ingame model versions by Asprin.

4.1). Firstones small ships adapted in game

TRIAD INTERCEPTOR


KIRISHIAC INTERCEPTOR


NOTES: Ingame model versions by Abigale.

5). Grey Star model updated


NOTES: Shine maps and textures color are in test mode. This geometry is middle between ISA Whitestar, ISA Bluestar and ISA Advanced Whitestar. Ingame model by Asprin.

6). Soul Hunter ship adapted in game.


NOTES: Ingame model versions by Asprin.

7). Ships almost adatpted in game

BABYLON 4


NOTES: Model is texturing and arming. Ingame model version by Asprin.

SIGMA WALKER


NOTES: Model is texturing. Ingame model version by Asprin.

8). Also, we've updated the storyline, some ingame sounds and interface, and, of course, we've began work with voices.

Thanks for your attention and support.

[redmenace]

I am very confused? Are you saying that these ships are ready for fs2_open?

[Asprin]

Yes. Shine maps will be ready today in 1-2 hours.

[ToecrusherHammerjaw]

  -has been rendered completely mute-

[redmenace]

So are these going into TBP?

[Prophet]

Looks good...

But not really all exited about new shadow ships... Totally isn't their style...

[Asprin]

So are these going into TBP?

If you're talking about official TBP - well...I'm do not know; but these will be in our WDF 2.0 release.

But not really all exited about new shadow ships... Totally isn't their style...

More than possible....but...

[rynadrk]

Now, are those models made from scratch or taken from a site?

[ToecrusherHammerjaw]

I can answer that in part at least.  The Shadow ships are probably from scratch; I've never seen them before.  But the Minbari vessels are from a ship art site I ran across, and the soul hunter ship and Babylon 4 are official.  The firstone ships probably are too, though I've never seen what they look like until now.

[rynadrk]

Well, you see I've seen those designs on a website with models of all the ships and even some fan made ships.  So I was wondering if he reduced the poly count to get them in game or just took them as tehy were and put them in game.

[Asprin]

I assumed, that the similar reasons can arise, so let me explain - It is very interesting, what can be, if you will take any finished model and will try to reduce poly, up to necessary ingame limit; even if to assume that you are right - we should see not models, we should see geometrical figure reminding this models; Further: I don't know any sites, that give an opportunity to download low poly models, all of them are VERY high poly.

Now, If you are interesting in technical details of this work: some parts of this models were created manually, some were taken from the already existing TBP models.

[rynadrk]

Well, I'm impressed that you've made so many ships.  I hope they are put into the official TBP releases.  Also, are they all ready in game?

[Asprin]

Also, are they all ready in game?

I've just finished with turrets and subsystems, and I'm hope that Abigale has already finished with the shine maps. Well, I'm going to check it out now.

[I_E_Maverick]

damn, i wanted to do many of those ships. you took a lot of work from me when doing the firstone ships and the minbari ships. and let me say, you did a great job on all of those ships. the shadow ones though are not that good imo. somehow too similar to each other.
anyway, i hope you can donate these to the TBP.

btw, how many polys and textures did you use for the minbari and first one ships? if you used textures from the high poly version, did you have permission? what modeling program did you use? what format does the textures have?

[redmenace]

I think those are Fabio's designs.
http://www.meshweaver.com/

[Azrael15]

All I can say is:

Yay! First Ones!

EDIT:

The Minbari ships are from B5Wars, but I don't recognize the others. The colors seem allright, excepting maybe the Torvalus. It always seemed to have a darker, less greenish color... Same with the Triad, it was very dark hulled with the red glowy bits. However, it looks like that that is lighting from suns, yes? And not the actual texture colors?

Also, hope we can see them in core TBP. That'd rock.

[Trivial Psychic]

That Greystar model originated as a successor to the Whitestar.  I'm personally against the idea that the Minbari had ANY organic-drived ships in that war.  Otherwise, you'd expect their modern warships to incorporate it (same for the Drakh).  That said, its not my campaign, and I'm not familiar with the plot and explanations for these additions, so what do I know?

[Asprin]

how many polys and textures did you use for the minbari and first one ships? if you used textures from the high poly version, did you have permission? what modeling program did you use? what format does the textures have?

MF MORSHIN - 6200 poly
MF TROLIGAN - 5230 poly
MF TOROTHA - 6500 poly
TRIAD - 6000 poly
TORVALUS - 6000 poly
LORD SHIP - 7000 poly
THOUGHTFORCE - 5000

SHADOW HEAVY ASSAULT - 1900 poly
SHADOW CARRIER - 1800 poly
SHADOW CHASER - 2300 poly
SHADOW ASSAULT - 1990 poly
SHADOW INTERCEPTOR - 1996 poly
SHADOW HEAVY FIGHTER - 1900 poly

All textures are in Indexed PCX with adaptive palette and duplicated in the JPG (RGB) format, and we
did not use textures from the high poly versions: Abigale is the professional artist and she has not
agreed with those variants, as the result she has redrew them with some changes.
We've used TRUE SPACE v.6.5; and for the texturing - LITH UNWARP v. 1.3

I think those are Fabio's designs.

Negative. But thanks for the link - there are many interesting.

I'm personally against the idea that the Minbari had ANY organic-drived ships in that war.

As I've already sad this vessel has lower technical characteristics than Whitestar, moreover, Minbari did all dirty work in that war, as the result, Vorlons could give some technologies.

[I_E_Maverick]

one more question: for tbp the polycounts are quite high, but i think this would be ok if the models are LODed well enough. so are there LOD1 to 3? and how many polys do they have?

if this is ok i think you should send Trivial Psychic the models, he will do first steps to put them in core TBP.

[IPAndrews]

Oh and by the way. TBP has a 95% complete Babylon 4. It just needs turrets, which you could steal from Babylon 5. You should approach the TBP team and ask them if you can complete that Babylon 4. It'll save you a lot of work and the model looks absolutely jaw droppingly awesome in-game. So ends my hint for the day.