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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: Autohummer on April 04, 2016, 05:47:30 am
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Since I was introduced to 3dsmax by a friend a few years ago, I have been working on spacecraft and other vehicles in my spare time. This is my latest work-in-progress, a 2-km class space battleship for my own OU. I haven't figured out what to do for the underside (it is completely flat at the moment) and how to make good-looking greebles and would appreciate any comment and advice. Finally, I don't know how to texture the whole thing.
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Short description:
Name: Muspel/Tirpitz-class Battleship (Muspel was laid down first but Tirpitz was completed first, leading to the confusing class name)
Vessels in service: 34
Length: 2145m
Primary armament: 18x 1m naval guns, 2x "Basalt" railgun systems, 1x retractable "Pumice" spinal railgun system
Secondary armament: numerous (depends on final design) 80cm diameter VLS launch cells, numerous (depends on final design) heavy VLS launch cells with "Starburn" antiship missiles
Defensive armament: 6x Testudo ASWS (Area Suppression Weapon System) (each ASWS is a turret with dual 3-barrel 380mm Gatling naval guns firing AoE shrapnel shells)
Shielding: Northstar GSX-2900 gravity shield (energy absorption capacity: 2900 EJ)
Amount of time survivable against Sathanas: 34 seconds
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The level of detail on this is quite impressive. If this was intended for the FS universe, I would question the use of the stub wings, but as this is your own thing, that's a moot point. I do however fail to see the need for the large prow. Scratch that... I just saw in your succession of images, that the prow splits into 2 pieces and slides back to reveal the apparent main gun. That said, it looks too prominent to me and the FS engine doesn't handle submodel translation very well. I would instead have doors with rotate out of the way. Perhaps have 2 upper and 2 lower doors running the length of the weapon, which slide within a larger fixed structure on either side of the weapon, while a pair of semi-conical doors covering the emitter, rotate to each side, also sliding within the side structures.
As for the belly, you may want to do the opposite of the wide "spine" down the center of the top, and do a similarly-shaped trough down the center of the ventral.
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Sorry for not getting back to you. I have had a busy week. I have made a new, less prominent prow but I am still working on the underside. Hopefully I can get something out soon.
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Necroing my thread, RL has not been nice to me until lately. Sorry for being away for so long.
Dorsal profile view:
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Ventral profile view:
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Ventral profile view #2:
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Rear profile view:
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Wow, that's some nice work. Always have to love the stiletto-ships.
I do think it suffers from two dozen engine syndrome, though.
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I don't think you can ever have too many engines, as long as it works with the design language and they are handled tastefully with a clear hierarchy of size and location, which these are. The weakest part of the design has got to be the thruster modules. Beveled rectangles aren't sophisticated enough for what you're doing with the rest of the ship. Especially the prow forms and the inset reverse thrusters, those are really beautiful.
Please don't make it more busy though. The last thing it needs is to be blanketed in greebles and panel lines so thick you can't even see what's happening like other FS ships.
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Changed the engine modules a bit and added some AA batteries in small barbettes, how does this look?
Standard (dorsal) profile:
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Ventral profile:
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Ventral profile#2:
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Aft profile:
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Bow Ortho:
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Side Ortho:
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Dorsal Ortho:
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Ventral Ortho:
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That's pretty freakin' sweet! Nice job.
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It looks great. :nod:
Nose reminds me Knifehead from Pacific Rim.
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This ship is sick.
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nice work
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Really really cool. Very impressive work. :yes:
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Very nice. :yes:
What paint finish are you going for? I can see sajuuk style striping suiting this.
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I am still figuring out how to texture, but since the flag of the guys running the ship looks like this (see attachment) I am pretty sure a Sajuuk-style slanted stripe would be in order.
[attachment stolen by Russian hackers]
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You seem to be doing alright so far bud, i'm keeping an eye on this :yes:
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(Sneaks back as if it was yesterday since last post)
I have finally learned how to UV things. Problem now is I still don't know how to texture things.
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This is the Arrowhead FGR.49 Strike Fighter. Currently undergoing operational evaluation, the Arrowhead/Starflare Mk.49 pushes the airframe to its limits with the addition of a pair of engines. The quad engines produce so much thrust that several prototypes flew themselves apart when accelerating. Even with additional internal reinforcement braces, the Mk.49 cannot operate for more than 10 minutes under full acceleration or risk permanent structural damage. The reason so much engine power was added was for it to accommodate the SLOW (Stowage for Liquid, Ordnance and Weapons) Pack without losing performance. The SLOW pack more than doubles the range and payload of the Mk.49 and allows it to remain competitive against latest fighter craft. There are rumours that another weapons system taking advantage of the SLOW pack mounting points is being developed. However, it is expected to be the last in the CFA line, as the FMAF pursues the development of a new generation of separate strikecraft for air defence and strike operations.
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This is the Starflare FGR.49 Strike Fighter. There are more Arrowheads and Starflares of various marks in the FMAF than all other strikecraft types combined. The two are collectively referred to as CFA (Common Fighter Airframe) fighters. The core fuselage module can accommodate two different airfoil modules, the delta-wing "Arrowhead" module with better speed and bigger payload or the conventional-style "Starflare" module geared towards dogfighting, at the cost of a lighter weapons payload. Swapping these modules and turning an Arrowhead into a Starflare or back takes only 30 minutes or even less when worked by an experienced crew.
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Cool fighter! I love the underside cockpit paint, reminds me of the CF-18 Hornet.
Texture-wise, I find I have the most success if my panel lines are very thin and light, and mostly represented by the normal map. It can also help if the panel edges are the lightest part of the panel (oddgrim's models do this very well). Usually this is achieved by making the edges of the panels look worn and scratched.
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Thanks for the tip. Do you make your normal maps by making a high poly model first or simply draw them?
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Ace Combat. That's all I'mma say. :D
Really tho, I love modern fighter aesthetic. Nice model, super cool! Tasteful color scheme too, interesting without being overstated.
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I really like the Flanker-style lines on your fighters. Quanto and I drew from that aesthetic quite heavily when we did the Feather 2 for SAFSO.
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I actually like your texturing style very much. Clean, not busy-looking, main lines and painting lead the sight and emphasize main lines of your model. Some metallic reflections done via other texture channels, and your fighter is ready to be used ingame.
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Measuring 10 kliometres from bow to stern, this fortress-battleship/M0/juggernaut/titan breaks concepts such as sanity, fiscal responsibility and practicality with mad, murderous glee.