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Offline Snail

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Would that have been nearly as cool?

 

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No. Such an action wouldn't have the psychological effect like the arrival of the Imperieuse, a destroyer which was supposed to replenish it's fighter squadrons in Delta Serpentis.
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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Well, sending in the Imperieuse had quite a few effects on the operation:

1) Tells Wardogs that they are screwed beyond the universe;
2) Intelligence failure;
3) "Enjoy" the fireworks;
4) Explode.

You don't get any of these four if you send corvettes in.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
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Offline Snail

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Serkr team = wardogs

 

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No wonder people always confuse that name with the protagonists'.

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All Buntu forces are dogs.


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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
No. Such an action wouldn't have the psychological effect like the arrival of the Imperieuse, a destroyer which was supposed to replenish it's fighter squadrons in Delta Serpentis.

On the other hand, if you can do it with the corvettes and thereby conceal the presence of the Imperieuse for an assault on a more important target, that might be worthwhile.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I don't know what's much more important than four Karunas, especially if the rest of the Tev fleet is tied up in combat thanks to attacks by Netreba and Calder.  Four Karunas is a large chunk of the main offensive forces of the UEF, and it would take a lot of corvettes to bring down that many frigates and keep the losses low.
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[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
A Solaris would be a more important target. It's not like if they have many of those, or any way to replace em.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Solaris destroyers are also heavily-escorted, and Calder and Netreba would be stupid if they didn't charge their drives and plot escape courses as soon as they entered the battlefield.  A successful kill of a Solaris in relatively open space is a lot harder than four Karunas trapped in Neptune's gravity well.
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[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

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[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I don't know what's much more important than four Karunas, especially if the rest of the Tev fleet is tied up in combat thanks to attacks by Netreba and Calder.  Four Karunas is a large chunk of the main offensive forces of the UEF, and it would take a lot of corvettes to bring down that many frigates and keep the losses low.

More of the UEF logistics system, further accelerating their collapse. The ships don't matter if you can't fuel them, feed their crews, or keep them loaded with ammo. Indeed, keep the UEF military as intact as possible while stripping away its logistical supports will make things worse for them.

The only way the use of the Imperieuse in this fashion makes sense is that Steele was using the engagement as a proving ground for tactics or equipment.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
How would you kill UEF logistics, by wiping out their infrastructure and supply train?  The whole point of the war is to capture as much of it as possible intact.  Steele's blitz on Earth wiped out a lot of it, and I think he wants to preserve as much as possible for when the UEF falls.  Steele could even be under orders from the Security Council to minimize further losses to Sol's infrastructure and shipping.
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[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline Mars

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
The Imperiuse brought down the Wardogs because the Atreus battle-group was guarding Atremis station, Serkr team was distracting the Big T, the Carthage was absorbing damage, and the Hood's battle group was probably defending something or another, getting patched up, perhaps running a few random offensive operations to keep the buntu on their toes.

 

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What I want to know is.... how bout some new hype of WiH2? hmm?

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
The only way the use of the Imperieuse in this fashion makes sense is that Steele was using the engagement as a proving ground for tactics or equipment.

Or if there wasn't a corvette team available.

 

Offline Mars

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Or if there wasn't a corvette team available.

The Imperiuse brought down the Wardogs because the Atreus battle-group was guarding Atremis station, Serkr team was distracting the Big T, the Carthage was absorbing damage, and the Hood's battle group was probably defending something or another, getting patched up, perhaps running a few random offensive operations to keep the buntu on their toes.

This point a thousand times. Me thinks that was a busy day for Steele

 

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Actually the Hydra is there, following the Impereuse, which you can get a clearer view in the ending cutscenes. You can see the other 2 of the Serkr team fighting the Eris and others in the screenshots.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Yes, but sending in the Hydra alone would probably not have had the desired effect. We know from the aforementioned screenshots that the Marcus Glaive and Pilum were engaged elsewhere, and we have no particular reason to believe that other corvettes were available to accompany the Hydra in the Imperieuse's place.