[Sandwich]

Just.... dayum.

(And yes, that's all I'm posting. If you don't get it, you haven't seen it yet, and I don't want to spoil anything)

[Mongoose]

I don't even watch/read it, but damn indeed.

[Black Wolf]

If you've read this far just to figure out what Sandwich is talking about, it's Game of Thrones, and it's super spoilery. Stop reading now if you don't want to know.



That was ****ing hard to watch. The imagery of Bran on one hand laying there completely vulnerable and innocent looking, disappearing into the fog and snow, while simultaneously effectively murdering Hodor and robbing him of a normal life... that last scene of young fat Hodor seizing... Fuuuuck. And all on the heels of Summer getting ripped apart.

Also, the actress playing Meera Reed hasnt had much to do this season, but what she's done, she's done well. Really sold the fear.

[StarSlayer]

Yeah that was pretty tough to watch.

[karajorma]

Changed the title to something less spoilery. And Sandwich you should be ****ing ashamed of yourself that I had to do it.

As for the episode itself, I have no idea how Martin managed to sit on something like that for as long as he did. Hodor has been a fan favourite for years.

[Col.Hornet]

Spoiler:

Just one more reason for me to hate that kid. I never liked his part of the story, neither in the books or the series. And to be honest the loss of the wolf was more painful to watch then Hodor's final moments. Such a senseless deaths, caused by a boring, annoying kid who didn't give a damn about his teacher's warnings. So, my dear Bran. Do your job <which I suppose will be very important for the story as a whole> and die ASAP. Make some room on the screen for some interesting characters . I simply can't stand this character.>

[zookeeper]

As for the episode itself, I have no idea how Martin managed to sit on something like that for as long as he did. Hodor has been a fan favourite for years.

Sit on what? I mean, there's no reason to assume that any given individual thing that happens in the show will happen in the books.

[The E]

Well, except for the things that are actually confirmed as coming from the books, which apparently happened for this.

[karajorma]

As for the episode itself, I have no idea how Martin managed to sit on something like that for as long as he did. Hodor has been a fan favourite for years.

Sit on what? I mean, there's no reason to assume that any given individual thing that happens in the show will happen in the books.

And that's where you're wrong.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/23/game-of-thrones-major-hodor-reveal-came-from-george-rr-martin

[zookeeper]

Sure, if you only mean Hodor == HTD then that's apparently from GRRM (and that's why I asked). There's no telling how much of the context or outcome is similar, though. The whole thing could play out almost identically in the books, or the only similarity could be those three words.

Anyway, there's of course pretty much nothing that hasn't been predicted by a fan theory already, so it's not like no one had correctly guessed the meaning of Hodor ages ago already.

[StarSlayer]

I wonder if they will take the opportunity to introduce Coldhands now or if Meera is going to have to pull a Samwise Gamgee and solo carry Bran's limp ass all the way to the Wall?

[Phantom Hoover]

spoiler, coldhands didn't matter and gurm had no interesting ideas for him (see: dorne, stannis, aegon)

[Phantom Hoover]

[karajorma]

Sure, if you only mean Hodor == HTD then that's apparently from GRRM (and that's why I asked). There's no telling how much of the context or outcome is similar, though. The whole thing could play out almost identically in the books, or the only similarity could be those three words.

Well either way Martin sat on the reveal that Bran had warged into Hodor and fixated him on that phrase since book one. That's quite an impressive feat given how much people like Hodor and how tempting it must have been to speed up that reveal. If the books do something different from that, it's probably cause Martin came up with an even better idea, not because that was what he planned all along.

[Sandwich]

Changed the title to something less spoilery. And Sandwich you should be ****ing ashamed of yourself that I had to do it.

I didn't spoil a damn thing, and you know it.

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The discussion did...

[karajorma]

You posted a major spoiler for the episode in the thread title. Anyone watching the show is going to figure out that the phrase "Hold the door" is going to be important in the episode. Which makes it quite a big spoiler when you haven't heard it yet 50 minutes in.

[Sandwich]

You posted a major spoiler for the episode in the thread title. Anyone watching the show is going to figure out that the phrase "Hold the door" is going to be important in the episode. Which makes it quite a big spoiler when you haven't heard it yet 50 minutes in.

Right - and about 4 seconds after you first hear it, you realize the significance. I didn't post what that significance was. Heck, I didn't even post what show I was referring to .

But whatever - you weren't wrong to change the title. Thanks for watching out for that sort of thing - I didn't see any way what I posted could be an effective spoiler, but I didn't consider the replies to said initial post.

ANYway, back on topic. Despite what happened there being, strictly speaking, time travel, it didn't feel that way at all. Bran and the Raven had observed the past before, so that aspect wasn't new. I guess the new bit was their (his) influencing the past. But even that, with the connection to warging, didn't seem time-travel-y.

[StarSlayer]

I wonder if they will take the opportunity to introduce Coldhands now or if Meera is going to have to pull a Samwise Gamgee and solo carry Bran's limp ass all the way to the Wall?

Nailed it!

[Sandwich]

Yeah! Even better, his sudden (re)appearance after 5 seasons means that LS could still be in the cards! More ammo for that theory: Walder Frey had a bit in this ep, the Blackfish is revealed, and the Brotherhood Without Banners are mentioned - all related to LS in some way or another.

LS is coming, mark my words.

[Col.Hornet]

LET'S DISCUSS THE SEASON'S FINALE

Spoiler:

So it looks that R+L=J is 99% legit after 10'th episode . Starks are back in business and all danyfans shall be cheering as she's rolling in. Sh**** days are coming for the Lannisters with everyone against them.


 Oh, and now i truly understand why they call the capital the "King's Landing" xD