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I have very limited contact with anime and I'm going to keep it that way (though I like to lurk the Deviantart from time to time looking at some quality manga-style stuff). One of the very few things I watched except Pokemon as a little kid was "Berserk". Damn me, it was worth every minute spent :)

 

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Enjoyment of Game of Thrones should translate into Berserk being up your alley, the original 97 series and the The Golden Age Arc films from 2013 are both pretty solid. 

Unfortunately the new 2016-17 series is CGI garbage and animated terribly, which borders on crime considering how amazing the manga artwork from Kentaro Miura is:



Berserk really should be produced by someone like Mad House or Bones to be done justice.

If you like Mamoru Oshii's Ghost in the Shell films, then Jin Roh:The Wolf Brigade and Sky Crawlers are definitely worth a watch.  Just note both are slow paced story driven films punctuated with fantastic action sequences not the other way round.




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"Slow paced" is a massive understatement when it comes to Sky Crawlers.

 

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One warning about Berserk: don't get into it unless you're prepared to hate yourself, and/or have several stiff drinks at hand.

 

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Berserk

is a manga which is beyond fantastic, unfortunately it has never had an anime adaption that was not an insult. the 97 one was ok, but the manga is legendary. and this thread was about anime, not manga.
If I were to suggest a studio for Berserk I would go with Production IG, I love Bones and Mad House, but Production IG had a lot more experience with somber mature material and they feel like a better fit than the more colorful and energetic studios.

I also have a feeling Josh would not be able to get past the rampant and gratuitous sexuality/rape ingrained in and central to it. I mean this is the manga that gave us Rape Horse.
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Aside from the conclusion I don't recall that the Golden Age Arcs stray too far from anything that Game of Thrones hasn't covered?
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It's extremely graphic rape every other page, Griphith is the only major character I don't think has been raped or damn near.
The very first page starts with the main character having sex with someone that ends with him blowing her hear off with a mini-cannon.
This is not the end of the scene it is in:



...you might be right.
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I really would love to know just what sort of ****ed-up childhood produced Kentaro Miura.

 

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Fun Fact: He started writing Berserk when he was 20, 30 years ago. so he was just barely out of his childhood when he started.
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It's extremely graphic rape every other page, Griphith is the only major character I don't think has been raped or damn near.
The very first page starts with the main character having sex with someone that ends with him blowing her hear off with a mini-cannon.

The 2013 films and the 97 series follow the Golden Age/Band of the Hawk Arcs right?  I don't recall things getting too weird, ie deviating beyond medieval norms, until post Eclipse? 
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don't go in expecting a happy ending.

...uhm, a happy ending is not required for a story, or a good one. What is required is a well-made ending - not a happy one, a conclusive one or a consistent one.
Granted you shouldn't ditch constiency or a conclusion unless you are godlike story-teller but that conventions are neither monolithic, unyielding or desevering of undying feality is good thing to keep in mind.



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If you have to add some many caveats to the recommendation, doesn't it make it a bad recommendation for someone at the entry level?

I don't have to make it taboo but it is a bit of dive into the deep end, isn't it?
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Re: I have no knowledge about animé and peer pressure is getting to me please help.
I'm already watching GITS so y'all can turn this into a discussion about rad animé.

I mean, this forum needs more people talking about rad stuff anyway.

 

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it is a bit of dive into the deep end, isn't it?

more than just a little bit.

Especially if you know who you are making a recommendation for, and you know they have a problem with what they would call misogyny (and that variety of thing).
I mean I love Panty & Stocking with Garter Belt, but I don't think that would be his sort of thing, and I was trying to actually be helpful. When you make a recommendation you have to think about who you are making it for, not just what you have liked.
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don't go in expecting a happy ending.
...uhm, a happy ending is not required for a story, or a good one.
...Did anyone claim otherwise? I literally said it was "a fantastic movie" in the part immediately before the part you quoted.
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I really would love to know just what sort of ****ed-up childhood produced Kentaro Miura.

He has some very diverse interests. Not some time ago, he got hooked on Idolmaster of all things, if you can believe that.

 

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Yeah I've seen that running gag for years now.  "Welp, new Idolmaster game, no more new Berserk chapters for the next year!"

 
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Op go watch Your Name, it's a good start for people new to the medium. Then jump back two decades and watch Macross Plus (both the OVA and Movie editions, they have scenes exclusive to each other). Then sit in /a/ and brawl it out with neoweebs, that'll get you some fighting cred.

 

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Barely know any, building my own knowledge of animé myself, but so far, I can only reinforce some of the already suggested. Most anime is ****, but there's a few gems that are not only worth watching, they are true pieces of art that you won't experience in any other format.

Cowboy Bebop - don't listen to Scotty's trolling. The "assured" responses he gets for downplaying it have a really damned good reason. CB is by far one of the pearls of animé.

Death Note -  has a tremendously good first season. The concept is simple and strong, the execution of it is really great. The second had a wrong arc written into it, for shame.

Re:Zero - Very good. Watch it. Like Bebop, it is incredibly focused and there's no filler. Great concept, even better execution.

One Punch Man - What The_E said. The art is insanely good, and the concept is genius. It's basically parodying Dragon Ball Z in the finest possible way. Heart, cynicism, self-awareness and ennui.

GITS is so cliché. Reminds me of Romeo and Juliet. May have something to do with how everything copied from it from then on ;).

There are others, but I refrain.

 

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Cowboy Bebop - don't listen to Scotty's trolling. The "assured" responses he gets for downplaying it have a really damned good reason. CB is by far one of the pearls of animé.

I don't think it was Scotty...
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