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Offline HelDM

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Uh... I have a weapons related question. In the demo release, every time you shoot something you get this really cheesy, stereotypical sound effect, like a ricochet. And it happens every time you shoot something. Now, on a technical point of view, if allll your shots are ricocheting, then you're not really doing much good. From a gameplay standpoint, it's kind of an irritating sound effect, and I was wondering if there's a change planned, so that if there's not, I can replace it with something else.

hmm good point.. I just started to imagine that all these bullets dented the armor of a hostile fighter.. if you shoot 600 rounds at the same area.. it's bound to be smashed to bits, and only the last shots would actually penetrate the armor, because the rest bounced off, but weakened it

Also, on the weapons front, it would be really interesting to see terran command (after unification) come up with some sort of hybrid weapon, based on old terran and vasudan designs. (a hybrid weapon as in a laser propelled bullet) It sounds like "the best of two worlds"The speed and general handyness of the laser combined with the raw penetration power of bullets.
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Offline Mars

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Wouldn't they be using armor piercing bullets of some type... technically speaking?

Pure lead doesn't really do much to armor.

 

Offline Topgun

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I got an idea. diamond bullets.

 

Offline colecampbell666

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The effect does kind of bug me.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Online Colonol Dekker

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I got an idea. diamond bullets.


Nice idea, but think of the £$£$£$£$£$ cost to the economy every time you held down the fire button in a twenty minute engagement.

Plus on the rare ( it must happen at some point) occasion that we miss our targets, They'd fly off forever and hit some poor soul out walking his space dog..

 

Offline HelDM

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Wouldn't they be using armor piercing bullets of some type... technically speaking?

Pure lead doesn't really do much to armor.

heh true, but the sounds implies just that.. lead bullets ;)
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Offline Mars

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Wouldn't they be using armor piercing bullets of some type... technically speaking?

Pure lead doesn't really do much to armor.

heh true, but the sounds implies just that.. lead bullets ;)

Exactly my point.

I'd expect them to explode on impact, not richochet.

Also, in Freespace fighters can widthstand kiloton of TNT equivalent warheads, so I'd expect fighters, even from a hundred years before, to be a little more durable than normal machine gun ammunition could handle.

 

Offline HelDM

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Hmmm quite a good point.. for a martian ;)
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Offline Mars

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It's actually in reference to Mars the greek god of war, not the planet named after him.

 

Offline colecampbell666

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You mean the Roman god? Be glad I pointed that out, I just saved you from the Mobian Inquisition.
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Offline Mars

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lol... oops... I originally wanted Ares, but someone had taken it.

Annnyway... more thoughts on the weapon ricochet sound?

 

Offline Topgun

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I got an idea. diamond bullets.


Nice idea, but think of the £$£$£$£$£$ cost to the economy every time you held down the fire button in a twenty minute engagement.

Plus on the rare ( it must happen at some point) occasion that we miss our targets, They'd fly off forever and hit some poor soul out walking his space dog..

in the futaur diamonds might be much cheaper to make. and besides, how much money do you think the GTVA wastes on giant beamzors?

Plus on the rare ( it must happen at some point) occasion that we miss our targets, They'd fly off forever and hit some poor soul out walking his space dog..
:(

 

Offline CaptJosh

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Ok, since this thread is about weapons, I've got a problem. I just got the mission where I get the mustang for the first time. It can't use the guns that I'm showing available. Is this a bug or a feature?

EDIT: It appears to be a bug with the March 14th '08 XT build. I went back to the Dec. 7th, '07 XT and it worked ok, save the problem of it not being updated with the widescreen fix, though this largely wasn't an issue. I'll try to Mantis the bug later, assuming I can remember my login. I'm also going to test to see which build introduced the bug so that I can give more info for my forthcoming bug report for the SCP.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2008, 01:29:08 am by CaptJosh »
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Offline Akalabeth Angel

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in the futaur diamonds might be much cheaper to make. and besides, how much money do you think the GTVA wastes on giant beamzors?

      Dude? Cheaper to Make? Diamonds don't come out of a factory. They're the result of the Earth crushing coal for a couple hundred thousand years. Besides, diamond's might be hard, but you can still smash them with a hammer. What do you think getting slammed into a steel or titanium plate is going to do? There's a difference between how hard a substance is, and its tensile strength.

      They'd probably go on using depleted uranium or whatever else substance they've got going on.

 

Offline Harbinger of DOOM

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Most likely a depleted uranium slug; and for railguns/coilguns/gauss guns they probably have a highly-conductive metal coating, like copper or gold covering the depleted uranium.
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Offline colecampbell666

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in the futaur diamonds might be much cheaper to make. and besides, how much money do you think the GTVA wastes on giant beamzors?

      Dude? Cheaper to Make? Diamonds don't come out of a factory.
Newsflash, they do.
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Offline CaptJosh

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Actually, for a railgun, you don't want highly conductive. You want it conductive, but highly resistive, so that the current pushes it along the rails. Highly conductive materials would simply create a circuit and drain the power out of the capacitors for the rail gun without affecting the projectiles. As for gauss guns, I'm thinking maybe you mean a coilgun? Don't need to conduct anything with that. The projectile in a coilgun never touches the coils. It's moved by pulsing the coils in a carefully timed sequence to move the projectile down the barrel of the weapon at an ever accelerating speed, and timing a reversal of polarity on each coil to then push the projectile as it passes and goes into the area of influence of the next coil. Basically, you shoot magnets, it's like a maglev train.
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Offline Akalabeth Angel

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      Dude? Cheaper to Make? Diamonds don't come out of a factory.
Newsflash, they do.

      Ah, who knew.
      Even so, diamond tipped bullets? Seems unlikely. Considering that the diamond has to fit on the tip of the shell (or comprise the tip of the shell, which would be fairly big) and not chip off or whatever. Bullets of today tend to be fairly singular in their outer design. But who knows, I don't make 'em for a living.

 

Offline Excalibur

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Isn't tungsten supposed to be a really hard metal, i.e. 9 on the hardness test or whatever?
You could use those on your bullet tips.
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Offline colecampbell666

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It resists high heat, but is brittle.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.