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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Spoiler:
Are we talking about Delenda Est?
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Offline Scotty

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Spoiler:
Are we talking about Delenda Est?

I think so. 
Spoiler:
Frigates bear down on the cornered Carthage

 

Offline Snail

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Spoiler:
Yep, that's Delenda Est. Stay close to the frigates, and learn how to use the Archer on beam turrets and Slammers on enemy bomber formations.

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
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Yep, that's the way. Also, you don't need to 'destroy' incoming bomber wings, pop slammers at them, fire into them, disperse the formations, and move onto the next one. Ten seconds spent evading submunitions is ten seconds they can't spend firing torpedoes. Hell, just spray primaries at them. Also, try and ignore most of the fighters (do NOT follow Brie's advice in the first mission, taking down bombers first has been military aviation doctrine since the Battle of Britain), except the first wave, or when you can easily slammer them.

Also, a good trick is to slammer fighter escorts and take the bombers with smaller secondaries, when things get heavy.

I found the trick was to make sure I wasn't being tied up with one formation. Also, that SSM strike wing is a MUST. It will make your day so much better.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 12:17:08 am by Dilmah G »
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The word 'Yo' is only ever to be used as a singular greeting.
It is considered an insult to destroy a perfectly acceptable greeting by misuse. A 'Yo-Yo' is a toy spun from the index finger by small children and enthusiasts,
any such use as a greeting will result in prompt reprimand by any member of the 'African-American' or 'Sri-Lankans-who-think-they're-black' community

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Offline Scotty

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I'll keep that in mind tomorrow.  I'm not going to risk RRRAAAGHGH'ing at it tonight, and I need to be up early for church tomorrow.

Spoiler:
****ing maxims

I'm guessing this mission is the source of WHAT THE DEAR JESUS THE SKY IS FULL OF WARHEADS lulziness.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I'm on the third mission now, I am LOVING EVERY DAMN SECOND.

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I've said a lot about WiH in IRC.. I'll try to sum up what I said for the whole team to read.

WiH puts you in the think of battle and for the first time in FS.. you feel it. You REALLY feel it. This campaign takes the traditional style of "kill wings of fighters/bombers until something interesting happens" and throws it out the window. Like I said, WiH puts you right in the middle of the war. You are forced to make rash decisions on the fly, hoping that it was the right one. The missions flawlessly execute an atmosphere that is unrelenting and will leave you craving for more.

I did not care too much for AoA and I was skeptical that I would enjoy WiH any more than I did AoA. But let me tell you this. WiH is the best thing this side of sliced bread. (And sliced bread is freaking awesome).

If you are in the process of designing missions... go back to the drawing board because what you've got just isn't good enough anymore. This campaign proves that we no longer need the same old stuff.

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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
*Ahem*OH MY GOD, THIS IS THE GREATEST MOD I'VE EVER PLAYED IN MY LIFE!!!!

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I'll keep that in mind tomorrow.  I'm not going to risk RRRAAAGHGH'ing at it tonight, and I need to be up early for church tomorrow.

Spoiler:
****ing maxims

I'm guessing this mission is the source of WHAT THE DEAR JESUS THE SKY IS FULL OF WARHEADS lulziness.

Spoiler:
Don't forget you have wingman commands and your wiingmen are really good.

 

Offline MetalDestroyer

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Spoiler:
Yep, that's the way. Also, you don't need to 'destroy' incoming bomber wings, pop slammers at them, fire into them, disperse the formations, and move onto the next one. Ten seconds spent evading submunitions is ten seconds they can't spend firing torpedoes. Hell, just spray primaries at them. Also, try and ignore most of the fighters (do NOT follow Brie's advice in the first mission, taking down bombers first has been military aviation doctrine since the Battle of Britain), except the first wave, or when you can easily slammer them.

Also, a good trick is to slammer fighter escorts and take the bombers with smaller secondaries, when things get heavy.

I found the trick was to make sure I wasn't being tied up with one formation. Also, that SSM strike wing is a MUST. It will make your day so much better.
Could you explain to non native english :) what is pop slammers ? It's the first time I read/heard it. I'm stuck on that mission as well.
Spoiler:
In Medium difficulty I got shot down by Long Range missile. The second try, I hide into the Reiza Station. But after, the station was destroyed. :( So I made a third try on Easy, and now, it's the Valeri which crush one of my Cruiser.

Damn, I love so much the Sound Track, and all that bang bang sounds :)

Don't watch if you didn't finish the campaign (I might be wrong concerning the mission title)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIcsG2j6OMU
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« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 12:37:05 am by MetalDestroyer »

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Oh, I meant fire slammer warheads. I think we're talking about different missions, however.
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The word 'Yo' is only ever to be used as a singular greeting.
It is considered an insult to destroy a perfectly acceptable greeting by misuse. A 'Yo-Yo' is a toy spun from the index finger by small children and enthusiasts,
any such use as a greeting will result in prompt reprimand by any member of the 'African-American' or 'Sri-Lankans-who-think-they're-black' community

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
****ING FRIENDLY FIRE.
I wish those losers would check where I am before going LOL SLAMMERS when I'm dogfighting.

It's retarded. I could have taken all them Gefs solo (I killed over half of em already all by myself), just to get splashed by backup-I-didn't-want.

I am not amused.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
****ING FRIENDLY FIRE.

You're resistant to Slammer friendly fire in m15, but not in other missions. They only just got around to installing the IFF-fused warheads.  :nervous:

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
yeah well, a friendly wing jumped in and splashed me with slammers before I even knew what hit me :/
I complete the objective, complete the bonus objective, kill 10+ fighters, and then DIE TO FRIENDLY SLAMMER FIRE :<

I, am not enjoying this as much as AoA. Got no drive to keep playing from the story, and has too much QQ not enough PewPew.
AoA was awesome cause you got to bumrush Shivan Destroyers, and here, I'm stuck defending transports and freighters \o/. When a GTVA warship comes in, I don't even want to bother shooting at it.

I really hoping that changes.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 12:47:33 am by Droid803 »
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Offline asyikarea51

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Go back to the drawing board because what you've got just isn't good enough anymore.

Bang. But oh well.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Unless of course you played WiH prior and design all future missions with WiH standards in mind. :P
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The word 'Yo' is only ever to be used as a singular greeting.
It is considered an insult to destroy a perfectly acceptable greeting by misuse. A 'Yo-Yo' is a toy spun from the index finger by small children and enthusiasts,
any such use as a greeting will result in prompt reprimand by any member of the 'African-American' or 'Sri-Lankans-who-think-they're-black' community

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BlackMan: Maybe if you turned into pedobear you'd be more of a threat

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Could you explain to non native english :) what is pop slammers ? It's the first time I read/heard it. I'm stuck on that mission as well.
Spoiler:
In Medium difficulty I got shot down by Long Range missile. The second try, I hide into the Reiza Station. But after, the station was destroyed. :( So I made a third try on Easy, and now, it's the Valeri which crush one of my Cruiser.

Spoiler:
You're on Darkest Hour. It's tricky. Here's my suggestion: keep your Beta Wing alive by giving them a lot of aggressive attack orders. When the big attack at the end comes in, have Gamma guard Rheza, send Delta out to attack the AWACS, and take your own Beta wing out to intercept one of the Maxim bomber groups, taking out the escort first.

Don't worry about saving the Vatican. The crew of that ship will gladly give their lives to defend Earth.

 

Offline MetalDestroyer

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Where is Commander Bei from Age of Aquarius in that campaign ? :p

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Where is Commander Bei from Age of Aquarius in that campaign ? :p

Spoiler:
You'll find out.

yeah well, a friendly wing jumped in and splashed me with slammers before I even knew what hit me :/
I complete the objective, complete the bonus objective, kill 10+ fighters, and then DIE TO FRIENDLY SLAMMER FIRE :<

I, am not enjoying this as much as AoA. Got no drive to keep playing from the story, and has too much QQ not enough PewPew.
AoA was awesome cause you got to bumrush Shivan Destroyers, and here, I'm stuck defending transports and freighters \o/. When a GTVA warship comes in, I don't even want to bother shooting at it.

I really hoping that changes.

I'm 56% confident you'll like Act 2 better. Just like AoA things kick into high gear around M10.

Also there's only one mission defending transports and freighters.

But all in all it's a much darker, more psychological story than AoA's hellyeah-kickass adventure. We figured we were taking some risks, but all in all I think they've paid off for most players.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 05:09:14 am by Jeff Vader »

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Question: Can I find that song from the end (which I think is made by ORIGA, if QVP is to be trusted) on iTunes? I can't find it!
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