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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Make a skeleton misison with standard messages and empty directives for when wings arrive etc. LEave the ship names and orders to the maker, but allow them to choose setting and targets........?

Maybe?

..............Perhaps :D
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
So is the idea having a line of dialog and/or a ship name rather than a basic mission template now?
Or is there still a mission template but adding this added similarity.
We can still have the template, but it's only really there for those who want to get right to the action without futzing around with all the monotonous fidgy-widgyness if we decide to include anything more than the message.

As it stands, it'll most likely be entirely up to the FREDer to get started.

 

Offline Goober5000

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
I'm all for Goober's idea.

To be fair, it was mostly Axem's idea.  I just piggybacked off it and fleshed it out a bit. ;)

 

Offline Ransom

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Okay... is anyone going to suggest more possible messages, or will we just vote on the five suggested by Goober?

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
No, he seems to have it. Although I'd also suggest the addition of a specified ship name.

Vale?

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Offline Mefustae

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
That's actually a pretty cool idea. We have a single message, a single ship-name, and maybe a single objective name to work around?

 

Offline Ransom

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
I'm not sure about that last bit, but pretty much. What sort of objective did you have in mind?

Should we make the inclusion of the specified ship a requirement as originally suggested, or allow people to do whatever they want with the name so long as it's present somewhere in the mission?

Regarding the actual ship, for some reason the name Scorn comes to mind. I'm not fussed, though.

 

Offline Mefustae

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
I meant an objective name as in something like 'Protect the ...', leaving the detail out but the gist of it in there. Or maybe something like 'Capture ...', or 'Oversee the ...', or even 'Fly to ...' or something.

Regarding the ship, i'm not sure if you mean an actual class of ship, but I was just referring to having simply a ship-name that must be somewhere in the mission a la the comm-message, something like 'Wraith'.

 

Offline Ransom

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
That was the idea. What I was asking was whether a ship by the given name should be required to actually be in the mission, or if it should be left to the FREDer to decide what to do with the name.

 

Offline Mefustae

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Oh, well I was thinking the name would be used somewhere in the mission, so not in the briefing, but up to the FREDer for whether it's an actual ship or simply a vessel alluded to in a comm message or whatever. Hell, we could just make it a name of anything, not necessarily a ship, just something, somewhere in or around the mission.

 

Offline Ransom

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Well if nobody has anything more to add, I suppose we'd better start making decisions as to the final name and message. Is it worth making a poll? And does anyone have other names to throw in with the three suggested so far (Vale, Scorn and Wraith)?

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Why not just pick some myth or contemporary event?  Like, for example, take the story of Loki killing Balder (http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/loki.html)  and provide something referencing it in some suitable 'loose' way?

 

Offline Ransom

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
That's not a bad idea, but I think it requires a bit more thought and research on the FREDer's part. That kind of spoils the simplicity of the project.

I think it might be best if we stick with what we have now, or we'll run the risk of never getting this project off the ground.

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
That's not a bad idea, but I think it requires a bit more thought and research on the FREDer's part. That kind of spoils the simplicity of the project.

I think it might be best if we stick with what we have now, or we'll run the risk of never getting this project off the ground.

Isn't that the point?  You can make it a fairly direct copy (like, I dunno, being in an NTF Loki squadron ambushing a GTVA destroyer called the Balder), or an obtuse allegory - all depends on the FREDers imagination.  'sides which, you only need to provide a very abstract base story  like that Pantheon link, something as simple as 'The seemingly invulnerable Balder is killed by Loki' and it's up to people if they want to go deeper into the mythological basis or spin off in a completely different direction.

I get your point, though.  I just like using these things as a basis, think it's both interesting and very challenging.

 

Offline Ransom

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Ultimately, it's up to the other participants. If more people would rather do that than what we had earlier, there's no reason why we can't go with it. Don't get me wrong, I see the appeal of what you're suggesting; I just think that, this being something of a collaborative FREDing experiment, it would make more sense to start with something as simple and open as possible, then build on that with more specialised ideas if the project's successful. We could easily have more than one 'round', each with a different set of guidelines.

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Furry muff.  I did actually think it was a fairly simple idea, that's why I suggested it :)

 

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
What I have to do to help you with this miniproject?
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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Right now we're kicking about ideas. Once we're final all you'll have to do is make a mission somehow using the phrase, name or whatever we decide will be the seed of this idea.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
What timeframe we looking at before completion?

I always make missions quicker when guidelines are in place....
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Tangent Campaign Preparations
Right now we're kicking about ideas. Once we're final all you'll have to do is make a mission somehow using the phrase, name or whatever we decide will be the seed of this idea.

As you wish,master :lol:
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