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Title: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 14, 2013, 12:05:41 am
Installation instructions:

First
-Download Zathras 2.6
--ModDB (http://www.moddb.com/games/the-babylon-project/downloads/zathras-26)
--Download.com (http://download.cnet.com/Zathras/3000-2115_4-10964935.html?tag=mncol;1)

Second
-If you already have an older version of Zathras
--Rename or backup your existing Zathras directory then extract the archive in your TBP directroy it will create a new Zathras directory.

-If you are installing for the first time
--Just extract in your TBP directory.

Thrid
-Grab the appropriate 3.6.18 builds and updated launcher from the release thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=83889.0).

Fourth
-Run the launcher and select Zathras as the active mod.

That's all there is to it. 


Known Issues:
-Warning about the tech description of the Brakiri 57mm in debug builds.  This is an old bug that was not caught before.  It is fixed in this version of Zathras but there is no way around the warning as it still reads the 3.4b weapons.tbl with the bug first.
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: Slasher on January 16, 2013, 07:25:26 pm
Are there ships other than the Thirdspace fighters that have shields?
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 17, 2013, 02:52:24 am
Yea for some reason the Dilgar Thorun does as well. 
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: wesp5 on January 21, 2013, 01:07:41 pm
Yea for some reason the Dilgar Thorun does as well. 

Ah, so that is the reason why the Vorlons have so many problems with the Dilgar in the Guardian of Light mission. I will disable the shields there manually, but I would recommend to remove them completely using Zathras. It looks to me as if this ship was added with Zathras anyway, and Dilgar using shields makes no sense to me. After all, even the EA managed to defeat them ;)!

Otherwise I played some missions with Zathras 2.6 to test the new beam colors and had no issues whatsoever except for the Brakiri warning :)! But I again noticed that some asteroids in the first Dark Children mission explode like ships. I suspect that they actually are ships looking like asteroids, because they serve as targets. So how can I give them an asteroid explosion?
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 21, 2013, 03:05:24 pm
I would disable the shields on the Thorun but they are very minimal and were included in 3.4b.  Removing them would change balance so not really an option at this point. 

If you can confirm it is the individual asteroids and not the field ones file a mantis ticket and I will get it fixed. 
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: wesp5 on January 22, 2013, 01:56:43 am
I would disable the shields on the Thorun but they are very minimal and were included in 3.4b.

Okay, I have disabled their shields already anyway.

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If you can confirm it is the individual asteroids and not the field ones file a mantis ticket and I will get it fixed.

They looks like this in the mission, maybe there is a variable that makes them explode like a ship:

$Name: Target 3      ;! Object #7
$Class: Asteroid (B, M)
$Team: Hostile
$Location: 7631.544434, -823.292542, 10625.733398
$Orientation:
   0.354932, -0.736499, -0.575841,
   0.685088, -0.214216, 0.696251,
   -0.636143, -0.641623, 0.428535
$AI Behavior: None
$AI Goals: ( goals ( ai-play-dead 50 ) )
$Cargo 1:  XSTR("Nothing", -1)
+Initial Hull: 100
+Initial Shields: 100
+Subsystem: Pilot
$Arrival Location: Hyperspace
$Arrival Cue: ( is-event-true-delay "Training" 8 )
$Departure Location: Hyperspace
$Departure Cue: ( false )
$Determination: 10
+Flags: ( "ignore-count" "no-shields" "no-arrival-music" "no-arrival-warp" "invulnerable" )
+Flags2: ( "targetable-as-bomb" )
+Respawn priority: 0
+Special Hitpoint index: 98
+Hotkey: 7 ; added by Wesp5
+Orders Accepted: 0      ;! note that this is a bitfield!!!
+Group: 0
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: Colonol Dekker on January 22, 2013, 10:44:46 am
What's new in Zathras 2.6?
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 22, 2013, 04:50:49 pm
What's new in Zathras 2.6?

Well the biggest new inclusion is normal maps for almost all the ships.  Other then that it's pretty much bug fixes, optimizations,  and compatibility with 3.6.16. 
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: Colonol Dekker on January 23, 2013, 12:51:29 pm
Outstanding!!!
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: wesp5 on January 23, 2013, 03:19:12 pm
So FUBAR, did the mission info I posted above give you a clue about the asteroid explosion issue? And will my beam effects be in Zathras 2.7 :)?
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: Slasher on January 23, 2013, 07:25:45 pm
If it's in the ships.tbl, which I know these asteroids are, then it'll explode like a ship. 
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: wesp5 on January 24, 2013, 02:38:45 am
If it's in the ships.tbl, which I know these asteroids are, then it'll explode like a ship.

Is there a way to change that in the mission file? Like assigning another explosion?
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: Slasher on January 24, 2013, 03:07:49 am
I doubt it, but someone more up to date on source code modifications might correct me here. 

There is a field to specify an explosion animation for a specific ship in the ships.tbl as of 3.6.10.  Adding that and setting it to whatever integer references the asteroid explosion effect should do the trick.

Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 24, 2013, 03:34:16 am
If he would just make a quick test mission with the asteroid, confirm that it is indeed only the ship table versions that have the issue, and put that in mantis it would get fixed.  If not it will most likely end up being forgot about before I get time to do it. 
Title: Re: Zathras 2.6 Official Release
Post by: wesp5 on January 24, 2013, 09:17:43 am
If he would just make a quick test mission with the asteroid, confirm that it is indeed only the ship table versions that have the issue, and put that in mantis it would get fixed.

I already did the former and just now did the latter. I wasn't aware that Mantis is an open report site, I always thought we should report here and Mantis was for the Pros :)!