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You're very welcome. :)

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:) yes, I should be, and everyone who enjoys this game and the additions should too, how can I not be? it's volunteer, well done and free, the least I can do is say is thank you, and hopefully in a few years I'll be able to donate to HLP because it's just the right, decent and moral thing to do and I'll very happy to do so. Cheers.

 

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A suggestion: Instead of the VP SHA-1 I think it'd be better to make a SHA-1 hash of the .7z/.zip file, because it's smaller so faster to process.

I wish there was a tool to download all the .sha files and check all the files in a folder, I think 7-Zip or Total Commander can make batch checking, so I'd like to request to each file gets a filename.sha file with its SHA-1 hash value and all of the files of this release to be compressed in a .7z file, and this file would have a .sha file too, so you'd add 2 links to the release for convenience to check integrity without too much trouble:

1) release_sha-1.7z
2) release_sha-1.7z.sha

I would like all releases to do this for standard, simplicity and efficiency sakes of the integrity checking process. I'm checking several SHA-1 hash generators to see which ones can help automate the .sha file creation, and I'd make a thread about it unless people here don't agree, want to or already have such a tool or feel this process is not needed.
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Re: FreeSpace Port 3.5 + FSPort Media VPs Release!
Have you tried the FreeSpace Open Installer?

 

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Never and don't need to, but I just downloaded it and it's cool, it recognized the game but not my current installation: 3.7.2 RC5, MediaVPs_2014 and wxLauncher 0.9.4, I liked that has many campaign download options and the complete game, but it doesn't writes in its website or wiki about MD5/SHA-1 integrity checks, which would be a nice option to select before going to the download window.

Anyway I think my suggestion it'd be a good addition for people that don't use the installer (FSOI) and the FSOI could take advantage of this and use the release_sha-1.7z and release_sha-1.7z.sha links to download the checksums and make the checking for the user.

 

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The Installer does hash verification as part of its download/install process.
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Good, that's a necessary and cool feature.

I have more questions if anyone care to answer them:
1)Does FSOI has all the released campaigns/full-games or only some?
2) is it difficult to add them with the checksums?
3) what tool do you use to generate the hashes? what integrity hash algorithm FSOI use? more than 1? I'd think it uses SHA-1 for all the campaign/full-games it supports.

Nobody has a comment or constructive criticism to my suggestion, is it out of place or too far fetched? I think not.

 

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1)Does FSOI has all the released campaigns/full-games or only some?
Only the ones mod authors have provided installation files for. There are plenty of mods out there that still aren't available through the installer, but at the same time, there are plenty that are.
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2) is it difficult to add them with the checksums?
3) what tool do you use to generate the hashes? what integrity hash algorithm FSOI use? more than 1? I'd think it uses SHA-1 for all the campaign/full-games it supports.

I'm fairly sure the installer has an option to generate MD5 checksums for mod creators to add to their installer configuration files.
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I'm fairly sure the installer has an option to generate MD5 checksums for mod creators to add to their installer configuration files.

Yup, and SHA-1 checksums too.  See the second post of the Installer thread.


Nobody has a comment or constructive criticism to my suggestion, is it out of place or too far fetched? I think not.

We already answered your question.  If you want a tool that does exactly what the FSO Installer does, by all means use the FSO Installer.

 
Re: FreeSpace Port 3.5 + FSPort Media VPs Release!
Where can i find the extended version of Ancients4 in 480, 720 and 1080p?

In this thread there is only the retail one and in the linked thread there is only the remaster of the retail one. But where i can find the extended version with the Vasuda Prime evacuation sequence in it?

I know it was linked in the 3.4 release thread back then...
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Personally, the one I liked best (and  I wish I could find it) was I saw a version where they blended the evacuation and destruction of Vasuda prime into the ancients cutscene that plays after the same mission.  It's very effective, much more so than just showing views of space while she's talking.

The fall of Vasuda Prime and the merger of that and Ancients was a victim of "It's not retail" syndrome if I am not mistaken.
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Re: FreeSpace Port 3.5 + FSPort Media VPs Release!
Seems that i mistaken. I found the 3.4 Release thread and there were also no link to this cutscene. Maybe it was linked in a much older version or i get it from another source back then.

Fortunately i found the 480 and 1080p version of the extended ancients4 cutscenes in archives on my external hard disk.
So, i still miss the 720p one.
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Might have been an earlier version.  I do seem to remember there was a version that had it in there
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In this thread there is only the retail one and in the linked thread there is only the remaster of the retail one. But where i can find the extended version with the Vasuda Prime evacuation sequence in it?

IceyJones was the one who created this cutscene.  It was replaced with MjnMixael's because his was truer to retail and higher quality, but IceyJones's cutscene is still available.  You can find it here.

 

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I can accept mentions of quality, though it's still decent, and at least better than retail, but the truer to retail thing is more annoying since it's not like it was invented out of nowhere (it's based on the command briefing animation)
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Re: FreeSpace Port 3.5 + FSPort Media VPs Release!
A suggestion: Instead of the VP SHA-1 I think it'd be better to make a SHA-1 hash of the .7z/.zip file, because it's smaller so faster to process.

I wish there was a tool to download all the .sha files and check all the files in a folder, I think 7-Zip or Total Commander can make batch checking, so I'd like to request to each file gets a filename.sha file with its SHA-1 hash value and all of the files of this release to be compressed in a .7z file, and this file would have a .sha file too, so you'd add 2 links to the release for convenience to check integrity without too much trouble:

1) release_sha-1.7z
2) release_sha-1.7z.sha

I would like all releases to do this for standard, simplicity and efficiency sakes of the integrity checking process. I'm checking several SHA-1 hash generators to see which ones can help automate the .sha file creation, and I'd make a thread about it unless people here don't agree, want to or already have such a tool or feel this process is not needed.



So you are saying, create a list of all files and their SHA-1 hashes, put those in a text file, and then create a SHA-1 hash of that generated text file?  Because, if so, that's bloody brilliant, because then you can just hash the text file almost instantly, and only parse individual files if that check fails.

Goober, does your Installer utilize this trick?

In this thread there is only the retail one and in the linked thread there is only the remaster of the retail one. But where i can find the extended version with the Vasuda Prime evacuation sequence in it?

IceyJones was the one who created this cutscene.  It was replaced with MjnMixael's because his was truer to retail and higher quality, but IceyJones's cutscene is still available.  You can find it here.
I can accept mentions of quality, though it's still decent, and at least better than retail, but the truer to retail thing is more annoying since it's not like it was invented out of nowhere (it's based on the command briefing animation)

For reference and convenience for those who haven't seen it (and yes, it was based on a CBANI):


 

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I can accept mentions of quality, though it's still decent, and at least better than retail, but the truer to retail thing is more annoying since it's not like it was invented out of nowhere (it's based on the command briefing animation)

Perhaps I should say that it's closer to the canonical gameplay of the original.  The FreeSpace Port is a port of the FS1 campaign, not a reimagining.  Even the enhanced music and cutscenes are optional.

There is a difference between "supports X" and "installs X by default".


So you are saying, create a list of all files and their SHA-1 hashes, put those in a text file, and then create a SHA-1 hash of that generated text file?  Because, if so, that's bloody brilliant, because then you can just hash the text file almost instantly, and only parse individual files if that check fails.

Goober, does your Installer utilize this trick?

*facepalm*

No, it is not brilliant; no, it is not a trick; and no, the installer does not do it that way.
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Re: FreeSpace Port 3.5 + FSPort Media VPs Release!
In this thread there is only the retail one and in the linked thread there is only the remaster of the retail one. But where i can find the extended version with the Vasuda Prime evacuation sequence in it?

IceyJones was the one who created this cutscene.  It was replaced with MjnMixael's because his was truer to retail and higher quality, but IceyJones's cutscene is still available.  You can find it here.

That is the stand alone version. But there was also a version that was appended to mjn's Ancients3 cutscene in one whole longer cutscene.
And i am unable to find this version of that cutscene in 720p, because i only have the 480 and 1080p on my external hard drive. :/.

Because the cutscenes are optional, anyway... why not to link also the extended cutscene as additional optional content :).
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I can accept mentions of quality, though it's still decent, and at least better than retail, but the truer to retail thing is more annoying since it's not like it was invented out of nowhere (it's based on the command briefing animation)

Perhaps I should say that it's closer to the canonical gameplay of the original.  The FreeSpace Port is a port of the FS1 campaign, not a reimagining.  Even the enhanced music and cutscenes are optional.

There is a difference between "supports X" and "installs X by default".
Fair enough.  it's just that I have seen WAY too many discussions when making new, higher quality assets that turn into an arguments over whether or not something is close enough to retail or if Volition would have done that if they made the game today.  You know, the usual.

In a similar vein, what would you say if someone made one of the cutscenes Volition detailed in the FS1 reference bible?  Many of those were cut for time.

I do definitely see not forcing the change on someone, but it would be cool to have those minor changes easier to find.

That is the stand alone version. But there was also a version that was appended to mjn's Ancients3 cutscene in one whole longer cutscene.
And i am unable to find this version of that cutscene in 720p, because i only have the 480 and 1080p on my external hard drive. :/.

Because the cutscenes are optional, anyway... why not to link also the extended cutscene as additional optional content :).
Yeah, I mentioned that one (though was misremembering thinking it was ancients 4).
As I said, even if it's different from the original, I think it is a great cutscene and the voiceover showing the current event that mirrors the ancients fall makes the voiceover more effective, and the solemn music and voice, makes what you are seeing more effective.

Basically the combination is much better than either alone or both one after the other.
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