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Title: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 10, 2010, 08:53:26 am: What the **** is this? I download this fsport, open the zip file and there's just a .vp file and a readme. So I open the readme, expecting to find detailed instructions on how to install this **** and there's not even any ****ing instructions. Did you not even for a moment stop to think that people may not be able to read your mind? PROVIDE SOME INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS PLEASE. :mad:
Title: Re: what the i don't even...
Post by: Snail on August 10, 2010, 09:22:12 am: Are you using FreeSpace Open or retail?
Title: Re: what the i don't even...
Post by: Angelus on August 10, 2010, 09:28:31 am: Did you read the release thread?

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=58357.0

so, it's either

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Retail FS2: Unzip to your Freespace2 directory, and make a new pilot. To return to the FS2 campaign, move, delete, or rename the extension of fsport3_1_1.vp. The readme should help answer the most common questions.

or

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FS2 Open: Place all the .vp files (except mv_fsport.vp) to a new 'fsport' directory in your Freespace2 directory, and select it from the MOD tab of the Launcher. Place the .ogg cutscene files to \fsport\data\movies\ (create the directory).
If using the FSPort MediaVPs, place mv_fsport.vp to a new 'fsport-mediavps' directory in your FreeSpace2 folder and select it instead of 'fsport' from the MOD tab of the Launcher. Be sure that you have the 3.6.10 MediaVPs installed in 'mediavps' and you're using FSO 3.6.10 Final or newer. If you're playing a mod that uses FSPort, add 'fsport-mediavps' to the mod.ini just before 'fsport' in the Secondarylist line.

You must select a Ported campaign in the campaign room such as "The Main FreeSpace Campaign" or "Silent Threat". Simply launching into the ready room will start the main FreeSpace 2 campaign, which will not work when the Port is active.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 10, 2010, 01:04:17 pm: Yes, the release thread is there for a purpose.

Though it would be logical to have instructions in a readme, if one is provided.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 10, 2010, 01:54:35 pm: Those instructions are incoherent and too complicated. Provide simple, step-by-step, user-friendly instructions.
Just tell me what to do, man. I have installed all the **** with the autoinstaller and have fs1 and fs2 retail discs. I only want to play fs1.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: General Battuta on August 10, 2010, 01:58:29 pm: Okay, here you go:

Step 1. Place all the .vp files (except mv_fsport.vp) to a new 'fsport' directory in your Freespace2 directory

Step 1.5: Place the .ogg cutscene files to \fsport\data\movies\ (create the directory).

Step 2. select it from the MOD tab of the Launcher.

Step 3: If using the FSPort MediaVPs, place mv_fsport.vp in a new 'fsport-mediavps' directory in your FreeSpace2 folder and select it instead of 'fsport' from the MOD tab of the Launcher.

Step 4: Be sure that you have the 3.6.10 MediaVPs installed in 'mediavps' and you're using FSO 3.6.10 Final or newer

Step 5: You must select a Ported campaign in the campaign room such as "The Main FreeSpace Campaign" or "Silent Threat". Simply launching into the ready room will start the main FreeSpace 2 campaign, which will not work when the Port is active.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Galemp on August 10, 2010, 08:44:02 pm: Where'd you download it from? Because those instructions in the release thread are how you install the thing. There's no simpler or easier way to do it except to use the autoinstaller... which you've already done.

I'm sorry, but if you just want to Download, Install, and Play, you'd be better off with retail FS1. If you can't be bothered with even attempting the instructions with provided then we can't help you.

And if you can follow General Battuta's instructions, please let us know. :doubt:
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: General Battuta on August 10, 2010, 09:04:47 pm: Quote from: Galemp on August 10, 2010, 08:44:02 pm
And if you can follow General Battuta's instructions, please let us know. :doubt:

I hope you c what I did thar.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Solatar on August 10, 2010, 10:25:20 pm: Surprisingly high ratio of 'useful and helpful replies' to 'rude and impatient requests'.

This really is quite a friendly community, for better or worse. I guess technically he said please.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Snail on August 10, 2010, 10:35:45 pm: Quote from: Solatar on August 10, 2010, 10:25:20 pm
Surprisingly high ratio of 'useful and helpful replies' to 'rude and impatient requests'.

This really is quite a friendly community, for better or worse. I guess technically he said please.
Technically, he said:

Quote from: BugMeNot on August 10, 2010, 08:53:26 am
What the **** is this? I download this fsport, open the zip file and there's just a .vp file and a readme. So I open the readme, expecting to find detailed instructions on how to install this **** and there's not even any ****ing instructions. Did you not even for a moment stop to think that people may not be able to read your mind? PROVIDE SOME INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS PLEASE. :mad:
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 01:30:59 am: General's instructions do NOT work. I just get a black screen when I run it through the launcher. In case of FS1, I get the opening cinematic and the pilot screen, then black screen. In FS2 I get nothing. Please provide CLEAR, STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO INSTALL EVERYTHING.

Let's start from the beginning and assume that I downloaded FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip. What now?
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: General Battuta on August 11, 2010, 01:39:20 am: Quote from: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 01:30:59 am
General's instructions do NOT work. I just get a black screen when I run it through the launcher. In case of FS1, I get the opening cinematic and the pilot screen, then black screen. In FS2 I get nothing. Please provide CLEAR, STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO INSTALL EVERYTHING.

Let's start from the beginning and assume that I downloaded FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip. What now?

click this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=61606.0)

I'm assuming you have a copy of FreeSpace 2 installed.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 05:17:59 am: It starts now, but it's still broken. I can't get past training phase 2. The advanced drones are invisible and if I shoot at them it goes right through. Do I have to have FS1 installed too?
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Snail on August 11, 2010, 05:19:33 am: Quote from: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 05:17:59 am
It starts now, but it's still broken. I can't get past training phase 2. The advanced drones are invisible and if I shoot at them it goes right through. Do I have to have FS1 installed too?
No, you do not have to have FS1 installed.

Do you have FS2 installed?
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 05:22:54 am: Yes, as per instructions. I have put everything the autoinstaller downloaded into the FS2 directory.
I just tried fsport without mediavps and the drones appear correctly. When I play with mediavps they're invisible. What gives??? I want to play with mediavps!
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: QuantumDelta on August 11, 2010, 05:27:59 am: You need to post a debug log I imagine, unless it's a common bug (haven't heard of it though), instructions are here; http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=56279.msg1180359#msg1180359
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 11, 2010, 05:32:16 am: Quote from: QuantumDelta on August 11, 2010, 05:27:59 am
You need to post a debug log... instructions are here; http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=56279.msg1180359#msg1180359
Yes, please do that. Yelling won't solve the problem, but more information for us might.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 05:33:07 am: Yes yes. But tell me how to solve the problem!!!
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Snail on August 11, 2010, 05:35:06 am: Why should we, exactly?
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 11, 2010, 05:36:25 am: I dunno lol
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: QuantumDelta on August 11, 2010, 05:37:13 am: You realise we need the debug log to help you solve whatever you have screwed up?

You've been EXTREMELY impolite and rude all throughout this thread, if you continue to behave like this I doubt anyone will help you at all.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Satellight on August 11, 2010, 05:41:17 am: :lol: :lol: :lol:

More useful, it's maybe more easy for a new user to download the offline installer like the Hips63 one. Install all at the right place.The only problem is that it's not up-to-date with the latest MediaVps, but it works fine. You can add other stuffs after.

Edit : It's here : http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=64634.0
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 05:46:06 am: Here's the log. I played until the invisible drones appeared, then quit.

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Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 11, 2010, 05:47:31 am: Well, you need the actual MediaVPs if you want to use the FSPort MediaVPs.

And you don't need to have any disks in your optical drives.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 05:50:58 am: What are you talking about? I'm supposed to have those already, I had the autoinstalled download everything. There's **** in the fsport-mediavps directory. Are you telling me I've got to download something IN ADDITION???
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 11, 2010, 05:52:56 am: Quote from: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 05:50:58 am
Are you telling me I've got to download something IN ADDITION???

No, we're telling you you're a dumb**** who's trying to use something in addition despite not having it.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 05:53:55 am: I just told you I ALREADY HAVE IT YOU DUMB ****.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Snail on August 11, 2010, 05:59:18 am: :wakka:

I take back everything I said. You are truly a genius.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: The E on August 11, 2010, 06:03:23 am: BugMeNot: If you have downloaded the latest mediavps, you should have a folder called mediavps_3612 in your FS2 folder. If that's the case, go to the fsport-mediavps folder, and open the file called mod.ini. In the line that starts with "secondaryline =", edit the mediavps entry to say "mediavps_3612", then open the Launcher, go to the mod tab, and reselect the mod (Just click on "No mod", then select the fsport mediavps again).

Also, calm the **** down. Yelling will not improve your standing.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Satellight on August 11, 2010, 06:13:31 am: @ the E : Are you sure it will work (no compatibility issue ?)

Galemp said here : http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70737.msg1399349#msg1399349 that we'll have to wait for FSPort 3.2.

Tried some campaigns who were just working fine, but ASW (for example) don't work properly with 3.6.12...

Edit : ...but I'm not complaining if I could finish an interesting campaign even with no MediaVps :D
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: The E on August 11, 2010, 06:17:53 am: Yes, you're probably right. The old mediavps can be found here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=65038.0
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 06:33:04 am: It was secondarylist, not secondaryline. But it works now, thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwGFalTRHDA
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Snail on August 11, 2010, 06:57:06 am: Don't you love happy endings?
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Galemp on August 11, 2010, 04:02:12 pm: :doubt: Glad to know we're appreciated.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Satellight on August 11, 2010, 05:57:31 pm: Quote from: Galemp on August 11, 2010, 04:02:12 pm
:doubt: Glad to know we're appreciated.

Sometimes you have to be patient :p
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Mongoose on August 17, 2010, 08:05:16 pm: We should probably nix that BugMeNot account, anyway. :p
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Titan on August 18, 2010, 07:16:51 pm: Is this one of those employee information videos that stores show to help you deal with customer service?
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: sigtau on August 18, 2010, 07:51:14 pm: No, it's an example of how anonymity can sometimes equal douchebaggery.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Galemp on August 18, 2010, 08:52:29 pm: Thanks for the feedback, BugMeNot. Your contributions actually significantly affected the way the new version is being distributed. I hope you find its installation instructions more to your taste. :p
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Cobra on August 18, 2010, 10:58:58 pm: Quote from: Galemp on August 18, 2010, 08:52:29 pm
Thanks for the feedback, BugMeNot. Your contributions actually significantly affected the way the new version is being distributed. I hope you find its installation instructions more to your taste. :p

Oh, so HE'S the reason why you made it a one-file download. :lol:
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Droid803 on August 18, 2010, 11:19:04 pm: Don't be too hard on him, the whole FSPort/FSPort_mediavps thing is...pretty sodding complicated if you don't know about how FSO handles mod directories, and still is even if you do. :doubt: (by god it was nightmare trying to get ST:R cooperating with the mediavps)
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Aurora Paradox on August 18, 2010, 11:45:32 pm: Quote from: General Battuta on August 11, 2010, 01:39:20 am
Quote from: BugMeNot on August 11, 2010, 01:30:59 am
General's instructions do NOT work. I just get a black screen when I run it through the launcher. In case of FS1, I get the opening cinematic and the pilot screen, then black screen. In FS2 I get nothing. Please provide CLEAR, STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO INSTALL EVERYTHING.

Let's start from the beginning and assume that I downloaded FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip. What now?

click this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=61606.0)

I'm assuming you have a copy of FreeSpace 2 installed.

I could be wrong so please correct me if I am. That guide references the FreeSpace open installer. I thought that thing was broken.

EDIT: oops didn't realize this thread was already 3 pages. Just ignore this post.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Galemp on August 19, 2010, 12:15:12 am: Quote from: Aurora Paradox on August 18, 2010, 11:45:32 pm
Just ignore this post.

WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN

CANNOT BE UNSEEN
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Raiden on August 19, 2010, 11:27:26 am: I can't believe you guys helped this guy. He's gotta learn sometime you can't just ***** and moan at people to sort something out for you. Ah well, I guess he'll learn in his own time.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 19, 2010, 12:46:00 pm: You'll find that the eggheads running FSPort are surprisingly tolerant of trolls. fsfreak88 is probably the biggest example of a troll that was given a lot of time (i.e. 2 forum threads) to make up. He didn't, so he got what was coming.

Spoiler:
Ban + IP block. The latter is something that you just cannot circumvent with a new user. :P
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Kolgena on August 19, 2010, 01:02:24 pm: Um, proxy?
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Iss Mneur on August 19, 2010, 02:44:49 pm: Dynamically assigned addresses from an ISP?
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Melichor Duraldi on August 22, 2010, 10:24:34 pm: Geez with the OP's way of asking for help I thought I was back on the Eve-Online forums :D
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: rscaper1070 on August 23, 2010, 12:41:04 pm: I had the same issue as the OP but for some reason being calm and polite resolved it quickly.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71039.0 (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71039.0)
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 24, 2010, 05:53:58 am: Quote from: rscaper1070 on August 23, 2010, 12:41:04 pm
I had the same issue as the OP but for some reason being calm and polite resolved it quickly.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71039.0 (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71039.0)

Because we don't act like jackasses to people who aren't jackasses themselves.
Title: Re: what is this, i don't even
Post by: newman on August 24, 2010, 10:43:43 am: Never let it be said that this isn't a tolerant forum :)