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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Just wanted to check, (as I said I'm rusty) it wouldn't be in a data2 or data3 would it?

 

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
nope; right here: D:\GAMES\Freespace 2\mediavps_2014\MV_RadarIcons.vp  ;)
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
I'll do a manual install later after work. That installer is....irksome, I find it always updates what I don't want it to, big mods like BP meaning delays to what should be a case of installing JAD and playing JAD.

 

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
You can always uncheck everything except JAD to make sure it downloads first, and then run it again to upgrade everything else.  That does sort of presuppose that you know in advance that other mods will update, though.

 

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
You can always uncheck everything except JAD to make sure it downloads first, and then run it again to upgrade everything else.  That does sort of presuppose that you know in advance that other mods will update, though.
You can't uncheck anything already installed.
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<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
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<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
...so you can't.  I can see things, totally!

 

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
The Arrety and Explosion seem to have multiple personality disorder, you can order them to attack random shivans and they'll switch personas from Holley to Anna to generic pilot and so on. It's actually pretty funny!
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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Arcade Hub: I fly through the Selkie/Iapetus billboards and I don't switch ships.
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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Thanks guys! Bugs noted for my to-fix list! :)

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
The Arrety and Explosion seem to have multiple personality disorder, you can order them to attack random shivans and they'll switch personas from Holley to Anna to generic pilot and so on. It's actually pretty funny!
On that note, tell Hakase to capture one of the ships a second time. Then watch as it docks and flies off with that ship at 90m/s.

 

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
The Arrety and Explosion seem to have multiple personality disorder, you can order them to attack random shivans and they'll switch personas from Holley to Anna to generic pilot and so on. It's actually pretty funny!
On that note, tell Hakase to capture one of the ships a second time. Then watch as it docks and flies off with that ship at 90m/s.
Axem: Never ever fix this mission.
Inferno: It's the I in Inferno / It's the beam spam delight / Risin' up to a shock jump arrivaaaaaal
Between The Ashes: Look just a really cool and neat thing, OK?
The Last Stand: A very episodic capship command mini-campaign
Breakthrough: A pretty standard but not really capship command mission

 

Offline JSRNerdo

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
I successfully ordered the GTC cooker and the GTFr cake pan and poor freighter to attack my targets. They are also schizophrenic and switch between fangirl, Holley, Delta 1, and Anna at will. Not Epsilon 1 though, noticeably!
Inferno: It's the I in Inferno / It's the beam spam delight / Risin' up to a shock jump arrivaaaaaal
Between The Ashes: Look just a really cool and neat thing, OK?
The Last Stand: A very episodic capship command mini-campaign
Breakthrough: A pretty standard but not really capship command mission

 

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Got killed in the endless gauntlet but instead of getting a debriefing with a score, I got the normal restart/back to Briefing/quit menu. I should point out that I was killed by my own weapons. Does death by friendly fire not count towards getting a debriefing? That damn Lilith just had to turn gold just before my pair of trebs connected.
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Offline Axem

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Very odd... it shouldn't matter but who knows. That and the weird persona stuff added to my list.

 

Offline m!m

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Pressing the left and right mouse button when inside a visual novel section causes a weird lua error. It's not game breaking or anything like that because you can continue after it just fine.

I also encountered a crash when I ran out of time while fighting the Sathanas "boss" in the endless gauntlet. I would like to investigate what causes that but playing though the entire gauntlet to get to that part is a bit frustrating. Do you have a debug command or something like that for skipping to that section? That would help me very much.

I also found and fixed two bugs while trying to reproduce the crash so thanks for breaking FSO in creative ways :P

 

Offline Axem

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Sweet. Glad JAD can be of help in such ways. :p

There is a debug shortcut to the final boss... I'm at work so I don't have the mission in front of me, but I think it was go into cheat mode with www.freespace2.com and then press 4? It'll either skip to the final boss or just start the bosses without the kill requirement and you can just ~k them quickly.

 

Offline m!m

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Ok, thanks. I'll try that after I fixed the next issue (the descripting length of the Lightning Spear is too long and that causes assertion errors). Also, at least the Dividiel can't be ~k'd. If I do that the health bar stays there but no new boss spawn.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Put the 2014 radaricon in, (I never used them before, never liked them btu JAD needs them according to last error feedback so put them in) died again,
see attached :C

 

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
m|m: try out the attached mission file. Turns out I completely disabled the sath shortcut, but its back now. Use cheats and press 4 to activate. Cheats and 1 key was the boss rush start combo, which I guess you found out.

Dekker: Are you using a very recent nightly? Also

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Searching root pack 'D:\GAMES\Freespace 2\JAD2-2\jad222_assets.vp' ... Failed to read file entry (currently in directory )!
0 files

Is sorta concerning. Try redownloading that file.

 

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Re: Just Another Troubleshooting Thread
Dekker: Are you using a very recent nightly?
Clearly not:
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fonts.tbl(line 5): Error: Required token = [#End] or [$Font:], found [$TrueType: OpenSans-Regular.ttf].
Whatever build that is, it predates TrueType font support.
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schrödinbug (noun) - a bug that manifests itself in running software after a programmer notices that the code should never have worked in the first place.

When you gaze long into BMPMAN, BMPMAN also gazes into you.

"I am one of the best FREDders on Earth" -General Battuta

<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.