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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support => Topic started by: Tantalus53 on August 23, 2009, 08:16:35 pm
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Well i have a problem. Whenever i try to run Fs2 on Vista, it allays scales down the screen. Now, as some modders might know, some effects wont show up below a certain screen resolution, and because my screen is small, All the pretty stuff for the mod I'm a part of.. I cant see. Only realized when i compared a screen shot i took, with a member of Omega.
Can anyone help me? It would be much appreciated.
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You need to run the launcher as an administrator - right click and then select 'Run as Administrator'.
Then change all the settings you want, and then click 'Apply'
After that you don't really need to use the launcher (unless you want to change mod, which doesn't seem to require 'Run as Administrator').
We're working on fixing this issue, but it's complicated by some compatibility issues that we need to work through.
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Eh.. I ran it as an administrator, but, im still getting in a smaller-than-set form. I do get an error i never got before. Something along the lines of "Cant understand 'Videocardfs2Open' configuration file."
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Have you tried compatibility options?
-Thaeris
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:nervous: What?
Where do i find 'em and what do i do with 'em? (is a noob when it comes to anything outside FRED)
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Well, wait... I'm not sure we were considering the same thing... What's the actual total resolution of your screen? I can't think of any new computer having less the 1024x768 resolution...
And yes, for FSO the 5.5e launcher should have the appropriate video options listed. If you get serious problems, right click on the appropriate application and select "compatibility options." You might want to try running in Win XP options...
...However, I still don't quite comprehend your problem. Can you better describe the screen being "scaled down?"
-Thaeris
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Well, a picture is worth a thousand words.
These are my current Video settings for FS2
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/BetaHydri/Launcher.jpg)
And when i run it (run in window enabled to show what i mean) it looks like this in the center of my screen (exactly this size) and the rest of the screen is black.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/BetaHydri/opening.jpg)
Screen is currently set to 1200x800, i think.
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Well... That's different!
I'd like for you to check something for me: go to your control panel and find the "Personalization" icon. Double-click on it. Then, go to the display options tab. Click on it as well. Check to see what your maximum resolution is. If your monitor is not at full resolution, set it to full resolution. Then go back to the launcher and set the settings to reflect your monitor's maximum resolution. See if that works. If it doesn't, we'll figure something else out.
...I think I understand those poor telephone help technicians now... I feel your frustration.
-Thaeris
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If this isn't solved by the time I get hope I might be able to help you. I have Vista too, and my FSO runs like a hot chick.
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I think you need to set the game resolution to the resolution that windows vista is running at. Same as what Thaeris said I think.
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Except for the fact he said he only turned on run in window for the screen shot.
I'm wondering if there is an option for the shortcut to run at a specified resolution or something. I know XP has the run normal/minimized/maximized for shortcuts.
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Normally, this should work.
Run the Launcher with admin privileges, make the resolution settings, and let it do its job. And instead of clicking "Run", click on "Apply" before.
Have you tried compatibility options?
-Thaeris
In general, FSOpen doesn't need to be run in compatibility mode.
I think you need to set the game resolution to the resolution that windows vista is running at. Same as what Thaeris said I think.
Actually, no. FS2Open will run at any resolution you specify.
Now, Tantalus, I'm assuming you downloaded 3.6.10 from the release thread recently, as well as the Launcher. If not, please do so again; There were some issues with the first release of the 5.5e Launcher that would cause an error like this.
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Windowed isn't ticked in Developement Tool is it? under features? ;7
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Dekker, no offense here, but did you read the thread? He did that ON PURPOSE.
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but did you read the thread?
Pre work, quick scan. Obviously missied it. :p
Vista hits me with this too when i try to run it at 320 x 240.
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Ill try these suggestions later when i get back from school. Hopefully something works.
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Another thing to check would be if you have game compatibility modes with vista activated. Right click on the 3.6.10 exe, select properties and you should see it, and I would uncheck the boxes if they are checked. Sorry if you looked at this already.
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....Since when does FSOpen require compatibility mode?
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....Since when does FSOpen require compatibility mode?
It doesn't, but he may have it set that way. It could explain the small screen if he has 640X800 box checked.
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So I checked ... And I have no idea what caused his problem. My Launcher is the 5.5e one, doesn't run in compatibility, runs fine. Although I may need to tweak the light settings...
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I must have been considering retail FS, in which compatibility mode might help you out. Seeing as that's not the case, you'll not I also dismissed compatibility mode in a post or two after that one... I think...
-Thaeris
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Okay... Re-downloaded the launcher, check. Checked to make sure both Launcher and Screen resolution is at 1200x800, check. Vista compatibility...
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/BetaHydri/service.jpg)
I don't see a box for it, or it on the drop down list... (checked 3_6_X and the launcher to see).
Now whats this about lighting settings?
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*also, if you mean the service pack 5 thing, yeah.. tried it.
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First, you don't need any compatibility settings for FSO.
What you should do, however, is run the Launcher with admin privileges, and click the "Apply" button once before starting the game.
If all of that shouldn't work, open the Startmenu, and type regedit into the search field. It should give you access to the registry editor. Use its search function to look for the strin "VideoCardFS2Open". Edit any and all entries with this name (there should be a maximum of two) to use the resolution you wish. Then open the Launcher, DO NOT touch the resolution settings box, and start the game.
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This is whats there ATM
"OGL -(1280x800)x32 bit"
If i understand what im looking at, it seems right... So what the hell is wrong with it? O_o
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Did you look for other entries with the same name?
EDIT: Sorry for not remembering this earlier (imagine desks being damaged by impacting heads), but try entering "-res 1280x800" into the Launcher's custom flags field (without the double quotes, of course).
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Ill try that next
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Yeah, no dice The E... Blah.. All it did was put the window up into the top left hand corner, and stretch it alittle.
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Can you run a debug build with the -res parameter, and post the fs2_open.log?
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Ill do so tonight. School calls :shaking:
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Warning: Unable to go fullscreen!
File: gropengl.cpp
Line: 1293
Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
gr_opengl_init() gr_init_sub() gr_init() game_init() game_main() WinMain() WinMainCRTStartup() kernel32.dll 75574911()
ntdll.dll 76e5e4b6()
ntdll.dll 76e5e489()
------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay... I think thats the only one... The only other one is from ED itself.
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No, that is not the log. the log, called fs2_open.log, is in the data folde in your FS directory, I need to see that.
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Oh that thing... kk, sorry xD
Well, here it is.. looks like a bunch of Jibberish to me o0
==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
FreeSpace version: 3.6.10
Passed cmdline options:
-spec_exp 11
-ogl_spec 80
-spec_static .8
-spec_point .6
-spec_tube .4
-ambient_factor 0
-env
-mipmap
-missile_lighting
-glow
-nomotiondebris
-noscalevid
-spec
-no_emissive_light
-normal
-3dshockwave
-cache_bitmaps
-img2dds
-no_vsync
-ballistic_gauge
-dualscanlines
-orbradar
-rearm_timer
-targetinfo
-3dwarp
-ship_choice_3d
-warp_flash
-mod Earth Defence,mediavps
-res
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0xd06bf123
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0xc9e372bb
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' with a checksum of 0x0dc7bb8f
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xa3141c30
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' with a checksum of 0x4dbbbe96
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x84396e99
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\Earth Defence\' ... 3234 files
Searching root 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\' ... 0 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 2868 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1810 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' ... 146 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1046 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\' ... 3 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 15 roots and 12812 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_strings-lcl.tbm' ...
Initializing OpenAL...
Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
OpenAL Vendor : Creative Labs Inc.
OpenAL Renderer : Software
OpenAL Version : 1.1
... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 32-bit color...
Initializing WGL...
Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
Actual WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
OpenGL Vendor : Intel
OpenGL Renderer : Intel 965/963 Graphics Media Accelerator
OpenGL Version : 1.5.0 - Build 7.14.10.1409
WARNING: "Unable to go fullscreen!" at gropengl.cpp:1293
Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
Unable to find extension "GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object".
Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
Unable to find extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
Unable to find extension "NV_point_sprite".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
Unable to find extension "GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod".
Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".
Max texture units: 8 (8)
Max elements vertices: 1024
Max elements indices: 1024
Max texture size: 2048x2048
Can use compressed textures: YES
Texture compression available: YES
Using trilinear texture filter.
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 705 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka! Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'! Error code = 5.
TBM => Starting parse of 'velindc-sct.tbm' ...
TBM => Starting parse of 'flak-sct.tbm' ...
TBM => Starting parse of 'mainhall-sct.tbm' ...
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka! Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'! Error code = 5.
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ...
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-sdf.tbm' ...
ANI radar1 with size 130x106 (17.2% wasted)
Windoze reported 16 joysticks, we found 0
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ...
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_advmuzzle-mfl.tbm' ...
WARNING: "Muzzle flash "PWmuzzle" already exists! Using existing entry instead." at MuzzleFlash.cpp:210
WARNING: "Unable to go fullscreen!" at gropengl.cpp:1293
WARNING: "Unable to go fullscreen!" at gropengl.cpp:1293
WARNING: "Unable to go fullscreen!" at gropengl.cpp:1293
WARNING: "Unable to go fullscreen!" at gropengl.cpp:1293
WARNING: "Unable to go fullscreen!" at gropengl.cpp:1293
WARNING: "Unable to go fullscreen!" at gropengl.cpp:1293
WARNING: "Unable to go fullscreen!" at gropengl.cpp:1293
Freeing all existing models...
!!DEBUG!! OpenGL Errors this frame: 1
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<mythbusters>Well, there's your problem</mythbusters> Untick the "Run at specified resolution" flag in the Launcher's Dev Tools section, and try again. If it doesn't work, run the debug build again, and post the log, this time using code tags. Quote this post to see how they're used.
EDIT: Sorry, I may have been a bit unclear before. Add -res 1280x800 or whatever in the custom flags field and run that with a debug build. (Thanks for reminding me, FUBAR)
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Done and posted.
==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
FreeSpace version: 3.6.10
Passed cmdline options:
-spec_exp 11
-ogl_spec 80
-spec_static .8
-spec_point .6
-spec_tube .4
-ambient_factor 0
-env
-mipmap
-missile_lighting
-glow
-nomotiondebris
-noscalevid
-spec
-no_emissive_light
-normal
-3dshockwave
-cache_bitmaps
-img2dds
-no_vsync
-ballistic_gauge
-dualscanlines
-orbradar
-rearm_timer
-targetinfo
-3dwarp
-ship_choice_3d
-warp_flash
-mod Earth Defence,mediavps
-res 1280x800
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0xd06bf123
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0xc9e372bb
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' with a checksum of 0x0dc7bb8f
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xa3141c30
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' with a checksum of 0x4dbbbe96
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x84396e99
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\Earth Defence\' ... 3234 files
Searching root 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\' ... 0 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 2868 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1810 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' ... 146 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1046 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\' ... 3 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 15 roots and 12812 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_strings-lcl.tbm' ...
Initializing OpenAL...
Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
OpenAL Vendor : Creative Labs Inc.
OpenAL Renderer : Software
OpenAL Version : 1.1
... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 800x600 with 32-bit color...
Initializing WGL...
Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
Actual WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
OpenGL Vendor : Intel
OpenGL Renderer : Intel 965/963 Graphics Media Accelerator
OpenGL Version : 1.5.0 - Build 7.14.10.1409
Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
Unable to find extension "GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object".
Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
Unable to find extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
Unable to find extension "NV_point_sprite".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
Unable to find extension "GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod".
Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".
Max texture units: 8 (8)
Max elements vertices: 1024
Max elements indices: 1024
Max texture size: 2048x2048
Can use compressed textures: YES
Texture compression available: YES
Using trilinear texture filter.
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 705 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka! Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'! Error code = 5.
TBM => Starting parse of 'velindc-sct.tbm' ...
TBM => Starting parse of 'flak-sct.tbm' ...
TBM => Starting parse of 'mainhall-sct.tbm' ...
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka! Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'! Error code = 5.
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ...
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-sdf.tbm' ...
ANI radar1 with size 130x106 (17.2% wasted)
Windoze reported 16 joysticks, we found 0
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ...
TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_advmuzzle-mfl.tbm' ...
WARNING: "Muzzle flash "PWmuzzle" already exists! Using existing entry instead." at MuzzleFlash.cpp:210
WARNING: "Muzzle flash "Gmuzzle" already exists! Using existing entry instead." at MuzzleFlash.cpp:210
WARNING: "Muzzle flash "Bmuzzle" already exists! Using existing entry instead." at MuzzleFlash.cpp:210
WARNING: "Muzzle flash "Rmuzzle" already exists! Using existing entry instead." at MuzzleFlash.cpp:210
WARNING: "Muzzle flash "Cmuzzle_small" already exists! Using existing entry instead." at MuzzleFlash.cpp:210
Freeing all existing models...
!!DEBUG!! OpenGL Errors this frame: 1
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Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 800x600 with 32-bit color...
Interesting seems like it's being forced to run at 800x600. No idea why though.
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This might seem like a strange suggestion, but could you try searching around for the older 5.5c or d Launcher and set up your resolution options again?
Looks familiar...
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I'de have to go download it from somewhere.. I deleted my last copy of my launcher.
Perhaps i should delete all the mod flags and try to reset them?
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I dunno; my thinking is more on "find old Launcher, put on the resolution you wanted to play at (along with those other settings in the tab if you want), then playtest... then if it does work, go add back all the launcher flags you used to have and happy gaming"...
Seeing as it's Vista and the problem looks similar to what I got before I just thought I'd $0.02 and see where it goes even though it might not work... :doubt: