Author Topic: FreeSpace2D, check it out (What the name says...) (Read 4934 times)

Speeder · **on:** August 02, 2006, 02:17:12 pm

Hello, everybody!

Well, don't know if anybody here remembers me talking about my game, but I've made it ready for a public testing version... Unfortunately, I've wanted to create a good campaign for it and only release it after, but I don't have time for that.
I've worked MUCH on this game, so I hope you guys will like it, even as how little can be seen in the test levels.

The website of the game: http://freespace2d.try.hu

If anybody would like to help me create a QUALITY campaign for it, please PM or e-mail me telling me what could he help with. But in advance, it needs much work and time to it, and not just words like "oh, yea, sure, I'll do that!"... I had some of those already. Of course, whoever helps gets into the credits

Speeder · **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2006, 03:21:26 pm

Oh, yea, umm... Some comments would be nice...

Cyker · **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2006, 04:07:55 pm

I wanted to but your website is horribly broken!

I don't know what resolution you've engineered it before, but try and make it at least fail gracefully for us 800x600 users!

It shouldn't be too hard because Opera's Fit-to-width re-shapes the website quite nicely.

Not perfectly 'tho - I get the Volition/Interplay etc. swatches on the left and the news/updates text with the clever (but non-functional) FS-style scrollbar on the right... but thats it!

The posts refer to a Download area, but there doesn't appear to be any links anywhere to one, and I couldn't hunt through because of the over-kill use of frames!

I must say the site looks good 'tho - If you can fix it so it works on everything instead of IE @ 1024x768 or whatever it'll be great!

Now post a smegging link so I can play it!!!

deltantor · **Reply #3 on:** August 03, 2006, 03:52:22 am

hmm, i played it for a few minutes, pretty good...i wouldnt really mind mouse control though....

i found the shivan gauntlet a little too hard for me. i wonder, did you rip the ships graphics from fs2 or were they done by you?

with some work this can become very good, although it was a considerably nice test release

Colonol Dekker · **Reply #4 on:** August 03, 2006, 03:54:44 am

Godammit (not your fault) Forbidden by the work network,..............................

Grumble, any [hopeful]alternative links?[/hopeful]

deltantor · **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2006, 04:02:21 am

im about to upload it to filefront, since it seems a few of you are having problems with downloading this, and well, Speeder did a good job

it will take 10 or 15 minutes to upload to filefront with my horrible upload rates

edit: there http://files.filefront.com/FreeSpace2D_Testexe/;5346498;;/fileinfo.html

Colonol Dekker · **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2006, 04:23:29 am

Woooo, place in qeue 53 out of 106 to DL fs2D, You have a fanbase already

Speeder · **Reply #7 on:** August 03, 2006, 01:15:36 pm

hehe, well, okay ^^
That's that with free hosts... ATW's been badbad nowadays, most it mostly is pretty stabile, but I'm open for alternative providers I guess...
As for the webiste, it's for 1024×768 and up, tested on IE 6, FireFox 1.0 and Opera 8.5 and 9... Sorry, but I consider this about the minimum, and I won't optimize a site for 800×600 as it's annoyingly little for an average 1280×1024 user. Buy a better 15' CRT monitor, they're pretty cheap nowadays

Cyker · **Reply #8 on:** August 03, 2006, 03:35:47 pm

Right, got home and fired it up on my Windows box in Opera 9.

Now I know why it looked so ****e under my remote Linux box - It uses Flash and you didn't put in any alternative links! (My Linux box doesn't use Flash and runs at 800x600 over VNC...

)

I was wondering why I was seeing a Mara on my Linux box and an Erinyes here...

But seriously dude, when you get a spare moment, please try and get a handle on gracefully scaling frames and CSS - On my Linux box it looks horrible and on my Windows box (At 1600x1200) it stays all the way to the left with a big white-strip on the right!
And pleaseplease add some backup HTML links for non-Flash users, or at least put a notice that Flash must be used somewhere!

*ahem* enough of the ranting

Had a go on the game - It looks really nice, 'tho it feels like a learning program.

The scrolling is good, smooth. Your sprite handling routines work very well and the controls and sound sync is good

And you have accurate collision detection! *swoon*

Suggestions:
It is a little 'on-rails'; That's okay 'tho - Raptor and Xenon 2 had a similar style and were fun games.
I'd zoom everything out a little, or maybe just jack the resolution up one higher - The ships feel a bit too 'big' for the screen size.

If you want a bit of challenge, make movement a bit more free-form - Scale everything down a bit (Or make it run at a higher res) and add mouse control and 360degree turning and movement.

Right button controls thrust, left fires. Maybe space for secondary weapons etc.,.

Depending on how you've coded the scrolling, this might be a lot of work 'tho...

Mars · **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2006, 10:21:30 pm

I applaud your effort, it has the groundwork for a pretty good game, just get rid of the "rails"

Black Wolf · **Reply #10 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:06:01 pm

You need the ability to move up and down the screen as well as side to side, and an alternative fire mode needs to be provided so you can use both missiles and primaries.

Speeder · **Reply #11 on:** August 04, 2006, 07:19:15 am

Okay, what you see there is my work to about 99%...
Xept for the pictures, but ripping those out took quite some work to them as well, so rest asking for a commerchial class game and website...
Ships big? Look at the perseus... Now imagine it even smaller.
360 degree movement? Now think that over... If you want an asteroids clone, then okay, but I don't see anything much fun and diversity in that.
Secondary weapons... I'm kindof lazy to write missile seeking code and rotating all those tornado sprites would take out much from lower end computers

And yup, it is a learning proggy, got a 5 (5 is max) for it at school

As for the rails... Well, this is the closest I could get to FreeSpace's phisics while having okay gameplay experience too. You're moving continuasly ahead at your maximum speed, so how would you move ahead? Afterburner, been thinking about that, but all of the ship pictures would need to be taken off from their ships and I'd need to code the effect for the afterburner truster, redesign the options menu to be able to set that key too, and you'd get a little effect and sound and could move temporarily ahead some. yaaay...
The topic of the enemy ships going backwards, let's not talk about it, game optimization

However as I've adressed, this is just a too big project for me, and I want to look for work soonish, so if we want to get anything good out of this, I will need a couple of SERIOUS ppl who want to help make a QUALITY campaign for it. Othervise this is it, so all of the above new feature thingy is in vain anyway

(Wanna tinker with the Website, Cyker? Oh and there are a couple of backgrounds and ships, it puts them on randomly)

Colonol Dekker · **Reply #12 on:** August 04, 2006, 07:48:50 am

Just tried it, very nice, the level editor is...........unwelcomeing but i'll figure it out in about a week

good game so far.

JediMasterTim · **Reply #13 on:** August 04, 2006, 02:13:51 pm

Ok, I downloaded it and played it. Fun game, although you really need make up and down movement. Here are my impressions.

The asteroid level was well done. It was challenging but not too difficult.
I didn't understand the bomber test. Nothing happens after you kill the thing (one hit?) and what's with the asteroid?
The boss test was way too hard. The flak guns were to powerful. If I missed once I was finished. I might have missed some vital clue though to beating it because I accidentally installed the game in German.
I like the Shivan gauntlet, even though it's also too difficult. It would also be nice if it was possible to know the shield and hull strength of enemy fighters. Kinda like a HUD system.

About 360 movement, I think it would be pretty neat if it turned out something like this game.

Speeder · **Reply #14 on:** August 05, 2006, 06:16:59 am

umm, notice the docs next to the proggy? Well, read the script documentation, then you'll prolly understand the level editor as well

I'm also available to help you ppl I guess.

As for the levels... Notice the release is called test?

Those are levels I've used for testing the game

Also, levels are single language, installing a lang pack will only make the interface and the editors' language diff.

The boss test... Well, that's one of the hardest bosses, so I intended that to be hard

Put in a Fenris, and yawn some if you wish!

360 - That's totally not anything like this. HUD system... If I wanted to develop the game, I'd add an identifier system and corresponding event system into the script... So for example, you could trigger a certain (out of the chain) even when a certain ship you say blows up. And maybe same for objects, so you could for example create escort missions. However I don't have enough time for that, so that's that

Speeder · **Reply #15 on:** August 05, 2006, 12:54:09 pm

I've tried that game. Well, I think it'd be just a tiny tad bit hard to make anything controllable, fun which is even close to FreeSpace...

Forgot about the mouse controls. How exactly would you make the ship have acceleration, while controling it with the mouse?

If I added acceleration to the ship + the mouse control, then everyone would complain that they always fall off the mousepad.

Dark Hunter · **Reply #16 on:** August 06, 2006, 11:54:23 pm

Not bad, not bad.... my gripe is that over half the game was still in a foreign language. (Everything except the credits and Gauntlet in fact). Also, the ship moves far too slowly for my liking. I understand you can't make it too easy to dodge blasts, but it seemed to take forever to get the ship outta the way!

Snail · **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2006, 05:43:50 am

I made a reasonable mission which involved player in Erinyes with Kayser and NTF wings (2 Loki, then 2 Hercs). After those first two waves the NTC Hellespont (Aeolus) would come in. It was almost impossible to kill, any suggestions on how to make it easier for the player? (I even tried putting a physical object TAC1_1 but it would just speed off into the distance when the player stops for the boss, can you stop that, and will the flak go right through it?).

Speeder · **Reply #18 on:** August 08, 2006, 06:17:18 am

Uuummm, about the aelous, put in the anti-bomber version of the cruiser, that has slower flak cannons, so it could hardly hit the erinyes when it moves, but the anti-fighter shouldn't be a prob with the erinyes eighter

Flak-phisical object hit detection... Could add I guess. Or even more, should add. I'll add it if I get some serious ppl wanting to help me make a campaign

Darkhunter, a Herc 2 is slow. Fly a bloody Astaroth or Horus if you want speed!

(oh, yea, and all of the missions are pretty doable. I've used harder ones for testing too.)
And if you carefully look at te game, you may notice that your ship is actually moving forward... Until a boss arrives, next to which your ship would stop moving forward. So, in fact an object speed of 20 would make a phisical object stay in place at a boss. Speed of 0 is in fact -20. One just doesn't create levels with a boss on the screen constantly, so it's easier this way

Oh, yea, and these are test campaigns, not final ones. Feel free to translate any level you wish tho!

Snail · **Reply #19 on:** August 08, 2006, 06:19:27 am

Shivan fighters are flyable!

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