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BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
EDIT: June 13th, 2012: A small remake is in the works to make the Hell Gate mission more enjoyable and playable. It will be Blue Planet 2 dependent instead of BP1 but otherwise will not require anything else.

Heya everyone, i'm back to bring a second addition to the missions i've been making lately, trying to push the maximum out of the game and lightly scripting to let every time you play, yield other effects. Now also with download links, as these projects have been on the backburner for way too long. They are, sadly, not perfect. First of all, videos, one old, one new:

Freespace2 Battle For Vasuda BoE Style (Lighter version)

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Battle of Vasuda is a experiment in both trying to make a huge battle, figuring out alternative ways to build up urgency, and how to succesfully create a battle with the least scripting possible. It also comes with some dialog and briefing as well. The file is a upgraded, lighter version of the one demonstrated in the Youtube video, as a result to try to lower the chance of the random crash that also is featured in the video.

Bringing the Maximum out of the Game/Hell Gate

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Hell Gate pushes the limits further, by bringing everything in-the-face. A investigation into FRED2 with the file will show there's lots of movements scripted, but aside from that, also is 95% unscripted. No dialog or briefing is added. I noticed that attempting to add 1 more ship will crash FRED2, meaning, in this case, the maximum amount of ships are included.

Needless to say, you will need a very powerful PC to play these missions. For those with old PCs, open the file in FRED2 and check out from there.

Created with:

Processor: Intel E8400 at 3.00 GHZ
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD4870x2 (HD4770 works smooth too, so the graphics reqs are not that extreme apparently)
4 GB DDR2 800 MHZ RAM
Standard HDDs (500 GB, 7200 RPM)

Filming was done at 1024x768 due to nature of Fraps recordings; aside from that, most settings were on. I doubt it's playable at maximum resolution with current hardware, but feel free to try.

Both files are Blue Planet dependant. I haven't been able to test if the skybox is included with the main mission file, so make sure to yell (and explain) if it's not. Seems a lot of people wanted to check out the skybox for the Battle of Vasuda.

I've worked on a lot more missions on multiple machines (Of which two laptops and this main PC) but I don't know when they'd reach the sort of quality i'm looking for before releasing, even in Beta-ish stage.

These missions are allowed to be upgraded, added to, and released; Just make sure to credit me, as it goes.

Please tell me what you think; I'll be checking this thread!

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« Last Edit: June 12, 2012, 08:34:32 pm by JCDNWarrior »
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
zomg

 :eek2:

I notice you can't fire your guns until well until the mission due to objects limit, but...zomg

 

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
If you really wanted to push the system, you can "force" more ships into existence through the ship-create SEXP.
You could also try opening the *.fs2 files with notepad, and copy-pasting entries and changing their x/y/z coordinates to have more ships (though that might break the mission file).

That way you can try running with more ships that even FRED allows you to place...if that doesn't crash FSO that is.
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Dude, that is so cool. That's the way a Fleet engagement is supposed to look like.


I think I just jizzed in my pants. I wish my computer could handle that.
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
As awesome as this looks (and sounds) it also illustrates one of the big problems of large BoEs. It doesn't seem as if you, the player, is doing much of anything in this mission beyond dodging beams and flak.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
I'll be honest. I know I've FREDded some pretty good missions, some of them BoEs, that engage the player.

But I would not turn my nose up at a mission that was just 'get from Point A to Point B through BOE HELL'.

 

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
As awesome as this looks (and sounds) it also illustrates one of the big problems of large BoEs. It doesn't seem as if you, the player, is doing much of anything in this mission beyond dodging beams and flak.
That's fair enough, but there are plenty of ways you could possibly engage the player in. If the player was in an interceptor, he could protect his warship (which, for maximum player intervention should be placed at the front of the formation) from bomber assault, kind of like in the penultimate mission of AoA. (But this is the most basic and uninteresting)

If he was the Squadron Commander of a bomber unit, he could direct his wings to disarm the warships threatening the objective or flagship of the Fleet, and ensure as a FREDder, the object vessel is destroyed if the player is incompetent of doing his job and that he must adapt his strategy to a changing scenario, rather than just going C-3-9, or having his entire squadron protect one vessel.

You could put the player in charge of a SEAD Flight, and have him and his boys and girls pave the way through flak cannons and beam turrets for an accompanying bomber flight to put some work in. And if he doesn't do his job, quietly crank the pressure up on the bomber squadron by using a few events here and there to trigger more fighters or give turrets health or something.

Or you could have the player as the most senior flight officer in the field of engagement, and thus have jurisdiction over all wings in the zone and use the complement effectively to ensure ships which are taking heavy damage have more fighters on close escort, and that the bombers are pursuing the right targets as well as their fighter escorts. And again, crank the heat up if he can't do his job.

There's plenty of ways to do it, you just need to put in the hard yards when FREDing and find something that suits the scenario. -> I've used most if not all of the above in missions I've FREDed as 'proof of concept' for myself and well, I do find working the comms menu like crazy whilst rolling the stick with my right hand fun in a weird kind of way. :D
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Also, those missions would be excellent benchmarks for testing graphics cards using FSO engine.

 

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
I would not turn my nose up at a mission that was just 'get from Point A to Point B through BOE HELL'.
I completely agree. If used just once during a campaign for the greatest effect, something like that could be great fun.
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Indeed, Transcend had a mission like that, didn't it?
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Pheeeeeeeeew.

Way to confirm how crappy my graphic card is !

Anyway this show that well-made BoE can become cool. In the first mission, I particularly liked watching the Vasudan-side of the battle from afar, it was nearly more impressive than watching the Terran side while being in the middle of it.
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Most recent BoEs haven't been too bad, IMO. That said, I wasn't around when every second mission was a BoE...
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Wow, I'm using quite a better computer than you do, but I don't get such nice graphics.

Specs

AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 4 x 3,4 GHz
ATi Powercolor Radeon 5870 1024 MB VRam
4 GB DDR3 RAM
4 HDDs with total 3,5 Terabyte space

My Freespace SCP settings are the following:

Graphic: OpenGL
Resolution: 1680 x 1050
Color Depth: 32-bit
Texture Filter: Trilinear
AF: x16
AA: x16


Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here?

 

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Give us your Launcher flags, you may have something disabled.

 

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
C:\Games\Freespace 2\fs2_open_3_6_10.exe -mod Renegade Resurgence,mediavps -spec -glow -env -mipmap -missile_lighting -normal -3dshockwave -dualscanlines -targetinfo -orbradar -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -ship_choice_3d -weapon_choice_3d -3dwarp -warp_flash -loadallweps

 

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Install postprocessing shaders and enable it in launcher (it's in "experimental" tab).
It'll spoil antialiasing in some places, but looks really good.

 

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14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Install postprocessing shaders and enable it in launcher (it's in "experimental" tab).
It'll spoil antialiasing in some places, but looks really good.

I'm sorry, but I'm not a pro regarding this matter, so you may need to tell me which shaders and where to get them.

 

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Install postprocessing shaders and enable it in launcher (it's in "experimental" tab).
It'll spoil antialiasing in some places, but looks really good.

I'm sorry, but I'm not a pro regarding this matter, so you may need to tell me which shaders and where to get them.
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23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: BETA/RELEASE: Bringing the maximum out of the game
Dude that is awesome and totaly crazy. More like something you should watch from a good distance with some close-ups in between. Could be a realy nice movie.
I specialy loved the part where this two Thypoons(?...haven't played the game for ages) are warping in right in the middle of the fight and fly above and below your fighter. That was pretty cool.
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