[HAZARDLEADER]

Ok before you say this is not going to happen or any other thing like that, remember this is a WHAT IF nothing else. (but its possible... don't **** with my little bit of hope i am clinging too )
First off lets skip the rights thing with interplay and stuff like that.  If there was a Freespace TV show in the making (with the crew being the hard-light community mixed in with a few hollywood guys) and the director was underfunded, and needed money to start and Finish the tv show, how much would you give? [up above the description] and no snuffleupagus is not a valid answer   

for the record I don't know if its been brought up before, but if it is then...screw it. 

[Nuke]

for the love of satan do not give the rights to syfy.

[Polpolion]

where is the snuffie option?

[HAZARDLEADER]

where is the snuffie option?

Ran out of space (conveniently) 

[Trivial Psychic]

The idea of a Freespace film or TV series has been discussed before.  >THIS< thread often comes to mind... mainly due to the post I made outlining my vision for the pilot episode.

[General Battuta]

Ok before you say this is not going to happen or any other thing like that, remember this is a WHAT IF nothing else. (but its possible... don't **** with my little bit of hope i am clinging too )
First off lets skip the rights thing with interplay and stuff like that.  If there was a Freespace TV show in the making (with the crew being the hard-light community mixed in with a few hollywood guys)

That...doesn't sound like it would produce a quality piece of television...

I think there's something about FreeSpace which would be extremely difficult to capture in a TV show. The 'cog in a great machine' atmosphere that's particularly characteristic of FS2 just doesn't seem to jive well with a continuing set of named characters who have arcs and development.

The idea of a Freespace film or TV series has been discussed before.  >THIS< thread often comes to mind... mainly due to the post I made outlining my vision for the pilot episode.

I remember reading that post. It might've been a decent start for a 90s Saturday-morning cartoon, but it wouldn't fly in today's TV-land. We're in the middle of a baffling golden age of really good scripted TV drama about interesting things like people, and a bunch of hoary space opera cliches aren't going to get traction.

[deathfun]

What's stopping us from making it a show right now? We've got the skill to model, to animate, and to voice act on this forum, so we could very well just do it amongst ourselves
Sure it won't be primetime or on Syfy... but it's got to start somewhere...

And who's to say we can't get a well put together drama to go alongside it?

[headdie]

tbh FS is not character driven enough to make good TV without inventing a lot of stuff, and then because it aint you will piss off part of the fan base.

Wing Commander would be better but they already did that.

Freelancer could make an interesting cartoon

[deathfun]

tbh FS is not character driven enough to make good TV without inventing a lot of stuff, and then because it aint you will piss off part of the fan base.

Wing Commander would be better but they already did that.

Freelancer could make an interesting cartoon

Something created by the largest congregation of fans is a safe bet it won't piss off the fans
Not only that, but who's to say you can't invent stuff within the same reality? What are all these mods but gameplay for stories? Blue Planet anyone? Characters out of the wazoo.

[Flipside]

Thing is, there is still a lingering assumption that movies and computer games are interchangeable, which I'm not so certain is true. Most attempts at turning computer games into films tend to go about as well as attempts to turn films into computer games, there is something that just tends to not work in either direction.

I'd even go so far as to say that one of the main problems with the computer game market is the need to make them 'like interactive movies'. Whilst there is certainly similarities, where you are playing a role as though you where a character in the movie, you are also at the same time playing the role of the actor, removed from the reality of the situation and merely following a 'script'.

If anything, I'd like to see more of a wedge driven between the two art forms to help define them as separate ways of expressing art, kind of like the difference between sculpture and painting, both are creative mediums, but are better suited for different methods of expression.

[deathfun]

Another way to think about this whole idea would be to think of it as a campaign mod which you watch rather than play

[The E]

where is the snuffie option?

There is one now. Balance has been restored.
Also moved to GenFS.


On Topic: There is nothing a TV series or movie could accomplish in the FS universe in terms of storytelling that can not be done better in a campaign, IMHO.

[Legate Damar]

Another way to think about this whole idea would be to think of it as a campaign mod which you watch rather than play

An all-cutscene campaign could be interesting if done right.

[HAZARDLEADER]

series or movie could accomplish in the FS universe in terms of storytelling that can not be done better in a campaign, IMHO.

I beg to differ, yes a campaign does tell it better, right now. But in 20 years we could see a really good freespace tv show.
But yes I understand you're reasoning.

[HAZARDLEADER]

for the love of satan do not give the rights to syfy.

Just to clarify there is NO WAY IN HELL that sy-****ing-fy is getting the rights...

[The E]

I beg to differ, yes a campaign does tell it better, right now. But in 20 years we could see a really good freespace tv show.
But yes I understand you're reasoning.

I highly doubt that anyone's going to care about a niche franchise consisting of a few games in 20 years. Hell, the fact that people still care now, ten years after the last official release, is quite astonishing.

In addition, I have my doubts about any noninteractive medium (like a film or tv show) ever being able to capture what makes an interactive medium (like a game) great.

[HAZARDLEADER]

"That...doesn't sound like it would produce a quality piece of television..."

I should of said: "this is a what if topic possibly something more..."

I think there's something about FreeSpace which would be extremely difficult to capture in a TV show. The 'cog in a great machine' atmosphere that's particularly characteristic of FS2 just doesn't seem to jive well with a continuing set of named characters who have arcs and development.

Yes I agree here to, its also to deep a story to be realeased yet. Give it a few years.

The idea of a Freespace film or TV series has been discussed before.  >THIS< thread often comes to mind... mainly due to the post I made outlining my vision for the pilot episode.

I remember reading that post. It might've been a decent start for a 90s Saturday-morning cartoon, but it wouldn't fly in today's TV-land. We're in the middle of a baffling golden age of really good scripted TV drama about interesting things like people, and a bunch of hoary space opera cliches aren't going to get traction.

I will die in hell before freespace becomes a saturday morning cartoon, that would just ruin it, it doesn't have to be acted with real people, just not a ****ing saturday morning cartoon.
Thank god it did'nt, or i would have had to hire a Vasudan bounty hunter and have him do that to who ever made it a childs cartoon...

[The E]

Yes I agree here to, its also to deep a story to be realeased yet. Give it a few years.

"too deep a story"? Seriously? When Game of Thrones and others have shown that you can do quite heavy storytelling in TV?

What do you even mean by "too deep a story"? What Battuta meant was that the themes that make FS2 work are hard to translate from a game into TV/Film; At worst, you'd end up with a saturday morning cartoon equivalent that has a few nods to the universe it was spawned from. See the Somerset Strikers series for an example of what can be done wrong when trying to fit a game into the conventions of TV.

I will die in hell before freespace becomes a saturday morning cartoon, that would just ruin it, it doesn't have to be acted with real people, just not a ****ing saturday morning cartoon.
Thank god it did'nt, or i would have had to hire a Vasudan bounty hunter and have him do that to who ever made it a childs cartoon...

I think it's time for you to show your cards. What are the themes inherent in FS that can be translated into a TV series from your perspective? What can be done in the FS universe in terms of narrative that cannot be explored in other, more TV-friendly settings? Who would this series follow?

[Cyborg17]

We could do a "show" using game play footage ala Red vs. Blue.

[General Battuta]

We could do a "show" using game play footage ala Red vs. Blue.

It'd be cute for a comedy, but nobody would watch a drama done like that.