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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Deniidil on December 21, 2006, 01:36:37 pm
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anyone who loves MMOs should play Vanguard when it comes out, it's going to rock.
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How do you know? Have you played a demo or a beta? Or are you just saying it will rock because the developer said so?
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Or perhaps you are an evil hired advertizer? Or a bot?
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At any rate.. it would help to actually link to an article about the game now wouldn't it?
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How do you know? Have you played a demo or a beta? Or are you just saying it will rock because the developer said so?
anyone in Beta cannot reveal that, it's a violation of the NDA, so I cannot tell you whether or not i am.
here google news all up in your faces :D
http://news.google.com/news?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tab=wn&q=vanguard+saga+of+heroes
Or perhaps you are an evil hired advertizer? Or a bot?
wee bit rude we are, eh?
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NDA is'nt fake btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement)
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Or perhaps you are an evil hired advertizer? Or a bot?
wee bit rude we are, eh?
Y'see, we already have DeepBlue as a corporate shill, we're leary of having more :p
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so because i like a game and post about it means i'm a corporate shill?
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Yes because you say so of unreleased game and not backing your bold claims with any material or well-explained reasons whatsoever. Your post looks like an advertisement, it doesn't actually have any information about the game itself or why do you think it's going to rock.
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Or perhaps you are an evil hired advertizer? Or a bot?
wee bit rude we are, eh?
Y'see, we already have DeepBlue as a corporate shill, we're leary of having more :p
at least DeepBlue uses visual aids for his advertisements :p
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Or perhaps you are an evil hired advertizer? Or a bot?
wee bit rude we are, eh?
I think that's "are we". But grammar is Goob's job.
You'll have to forgive me. I'm bitter. I just finished Gears of War and I'm pissed at the guy who wrote the manual intro and talked about "compelling story" "enemy you really hate", "involvement" and **** like that. I've read bad Gundam Wing fanfics that had as much compelling story as Gears. :/ Or somehow all the cutscenes/info/story stuff got skipped.
Helluva a game to play, story of a wet sock.
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Or perhaps you are an evil hired advertizer? Or a bot?
wee bit rude we are, eh?
I think that's "are we". But grammar is Goob's job.
good way to be so busy being a grammer nazi that you miss that i did that intentionally, congratulations.
You'll have to forgive me. I'm bitter. I just finished Gears of War and I'm pissed at the guy who wrote the manual intro and talked about "compelling story" "enemy you really hate", "involvement" and **** like that. I've read bad Gundam Wing fanfics that had as much compelling story as Gears. :/ Or somehow all the cutscenes/info/story stuff got skipped.
Helluva a game to play, story of a wet sock.
right, go take it out on their developers
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Basically,. I think what people are getting at here is that people like evidence, links and screenshots of games people are recommending, it gives them more to go on than a name.
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i figured people would
a) have heard of it by now
b) be able to use google
Kojan Continent
http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan014.JPG
http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan013.JPG
http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan002.JPG
http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan008.JPG
(above all from http://www.vgrangers.com - more screens there)
http://mmorpg.qj.net/index.php?pg=49&aid=58384 Thestra screenshots
huge gallery
http://vanguard.ogaming.com/gallery/Official-Vanguard-Screenshots
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Youtube videos (use the "related" list)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WqUbcM3pGQU
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Vanguard:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/FS2/Vanguard.jpg)
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no
Vanguard:
(http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan014.JPG)
(http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan013.JPG)
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So it's WoW clone n+1 ?
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not in the slightest... where did you get that kind of an asinine idea
yeah every mmo is a "wow clone" now that WoW is out... even everquest is a "wow clone" (Hint: Vanguard is being made by Brad McQuaid aka Aradune Mithara, the original creator of EQ).
WoW = ****e
Vanguard = the ****e
small difference
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furthermore WoW's graphics are cartoonish to say the least, and Vanguard has been in development longer than World of Warcrap has been out.
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oh... how about some wikipedia action
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguard:_Saga_of_Heroes
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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/106633/review_of_vanguard_saga_of_heroes_mmorpg.html?page=3
she makes an error in that Sigil is the developer not Sony
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another preview.. bit older.. but bigger name
http://pc.gamezone.com/gzreviews/p23701_3.htm
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looks like a big oblivion mod to me.
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Looks OK, but I OD'd on Oblivion and Gothic 3 for my RPGing needs for a while. Might take a look at a Fantasy RPG again in the future, but for now, I'll stick to Eve :)
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looks like a big oblivion mod to me.
hardly
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Looks cool, reminds me of the good ol' days of EQ/Evercrack/Neverquit/etc. ;)
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If I was theoretically in beta, i would tell you that theoretically the frame rate is bad even on a hypothetical high-spec pc. I would also tell you that theoretically this was on very low settings where the game hypothetically looked like everquest 1. I would hypothetically tell you that it is also very different from WoW.
Of course, this is all "if" I was theoretically in beta.
;)
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in theory, of course.
sounds like NWN2 syndrome. not looking great yet with huge system requirements and running choppy on graphics that look about the same as the game's predecessor, which ran nice and smoothly
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If I was theoretically in beta, i would tell you that theoretically the frame rate is bad even on a hypothetical high-spec pc.
IF i was theoretically in beta i would point out that optimization has barely begun and that FPS now should not be representative in the slightest of FPS at launch so you should keep your pants on
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doesn't look like anything real special to me.
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Vangard might be fun, dunno. Sounds better than Age of Conan or Warhammer Online, that's for sure.
After feeling sad and bored at the loss of fun in EQ and then feeling ripped off by the horrid post-60 gameplay of WoW, I'm feeling a bit... MMO sensitive right now, and yet Darkfall Online looks awesome.
Skill system a'la Morrowind.
Full PvP/Loot.
You have to aim your magic... and friendly fire IS on.
Naval combat.
Personal/Guild housing.
Mounted combat (limited personal attacks, and your mount can attack.)
That's a short list of why I think it sounds cool, look it up on www.darkfallonline.com (http://www.darkfallonline.com) for more info. The unfortunate thing is that it is full PvP and skill based (to a larger extent than the bot-ridden WoW) and... well... I laketh teh skillz. XD Pretty game though! XD
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If I was theoretically in beta, i would tell you that theoretically the frame rate is bad even on a hypothetical high-spec pc.
IF i was theoretically in beta i would point out that optimization has barely begun and that FPS now should not be representative in the slightest of FPS at launch so you should keep your pants on
Aye, but theoretically there shouldn't be 0-10 fps when everything is hypothetically very low, and the draw distance is zero, so you can't theoretically see past your feet.
You are right though. I forgot about all that theoretical optimization and debug code they're running in the background.
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vangaurd i remember a old dos game call vangaurd, it was about this space ship on a planet destroying all this mechanical stuff and a big boss at the end, like another dos game major styker and tigers :P
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i figured people would
a) have heard of it by now
b) be able to use google
Kojan Continent
http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan014.JPG
http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan013.JPG
http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan002.JPG
http://www.vgrangers.com/screenshots/kojan/kojan008.JPG
(above all from http://www.vgrangers.com - more screens there)
http://mmorpg.qj.net/index.php?pg=49&aid=58384 Thestra screenshots
huge gallery
http://vanguard.ogaming.com/gallery/Official-Vanguard-Screenshots
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Youtube videos (use the "related" list)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WqUbcM3pGQU
Wow, you see all this stuff? Yea, this is what you should have posted in your first post. Therefore, we would have gone, "oh, neat, a game" rather than "Wtf?".
It's stupid to assume that we've heard of a game, and by using that assumption, not post any content about the game at all, instead going "OMG OMG OMG THIS GAME WILL R0X LOLZ FANBOI!".
I await your angry, yet ultimately fruitless response.
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There all screenies and dont relate to the content of the game, for all i know this could of been taken on some other island in its dev. and when the game is released that island dont exist, only something boring.
Bit of advice, dont get too hyper on a game you have never played because ultimatly you tell your friends and its a real let down when you find out is grinding or some **** like that, example some players hacks the game and has l337 l337 w43p0n5 and t0p 13v31 42m0u2(elite elite weapons and top level armour).
In otherwords this topic is spam.
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I played vanguard beta a bit only a few days trough, but it gave feeling that it's same **** in diffrent box since it's gave pure Meh feeling there is just nothing cool to look forward to.
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need i say anymore, thanks Gloriano.
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screenshots look ugly
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Let's more, more grinding for $10 a month. Nothing really exciting it seems like... possibly dynamic kingdoms, skill based instead of experience based, etc.
Hell, even Blizzard has been slowly revamping ye olde Evercrack end game. If they keep tweaking it then maybe by the time of the last expansion it'll be fun at level 90 or 100 :p
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I really like the monk though...
Um, I mean, if I was in beta, i'd probably like the monk... :nervous:
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:lol: :lol:
IF you were BETA.
I'm sorry, but what is the point in making all your BETA testers agree to a code of silence? I mean... forgive me for being wrong, if I am, but I was always under the impression that the BETA reports were about half of the hype that a game generates pre-release. Most the the truly hardcore fans are created in BETA. :wtf:
Seems kinda silly.
*disappears into the crowd*
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*pulls miskat back out of the crowd* its called NDA, the reason is because of companies making games see people who are openly talking about ideas, this company can STEAL the idea and make it his own, and launch it before the orginal game with the idea in the first place.
NDA is a contract forbidding anyone from talking about this idea or game in question, otherwise the game makers get a bit suspicous you can find a hefty fine or worse prison time,
link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement) .
stealing means taking something without consulting the owner before hand.
*pushes miskat back into the crowd*
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Game NDAs are not about stealing ideas at all. Any company could just do that after the game's released. It's all about maintaining control over the hype and publicity about a game before it exists on the market. For instance, who wants a load of information leaked about buggy or incomplete features of their product before they can be fixed?
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It's all about maintaining control over the hype and publicity about a game before it exists on the market.
thats what im talking about... thats why the NDA is there for.
so you cant put the points together, il explain it for you. stealing ideas is meaning 'talk' or hype, example; someone starts bragging about some game feature and thier happens to be a person nearby listening to this.
publicity is all about avertising the game and its 'features' such as the 'ideas', example in a booklet thier is screenshots and game layouts that can easily taken.
dont discount this will you :)
now tell me something i dont know.
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It's all about maintaining control over the hype and publicity about a game before it exists on the market.
thats what im talking about... thats why the NDA is there for.
so you cant put the points together, il explain it for you. stealing ideas is meaning 'talk' or hype, example; someone starts bragging about some game feature and thier happens to be a person nearby listening to this.
publicity is all about avertising the game and its 'features' such as the 'ideas', example in a booklet thier is screenshots and game layouts that can easily taken.
dont discount this will you :)
now tell me something i dont know.
Whatever. It looks you're trying to explain away your ignorance with defective reasoning. But on the off chance you're not, it's generally better to say what you mean than make a vague tangent and hope people understand what you're getting at.
the reason is because of companies making games see people who are openly talking about ideas, this company can STEAL the idea and make it his own, and launch it before the orginal game with the idea in the first place.
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as you wish but your ignorance in not wanting to know is also your problem, your own words hit just hit you in the face :nervous:.
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Both of you, stop it.
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Sid's not being particularly inflammatory...and actually makes sense.
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