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Just curious if you guys ever got a StealthStar model yet?
Looking for something artsy to build again ;)
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Nope. No stealthstar as yet. It's not particularly high on the list seeing as how it only appeared once and didn't do anything apart from getting blown up. :p
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:wtf: is a "Stealth Star"?
Did you meant the Valkyrie class?
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:wtf: is a "Stealth Star"?
Did you meant the Valkyrie class?
Nope, it's the stealth fighter from episode 3x08 "Hero", for pics, check the Battlestar wiki.
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Which oddly enough was the episode where the Valkyrie was introduced.
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Not sure where you'd get sufficient references to build one accurately anyway..
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Whatever happened to that guy in the Stealth-star anyway?
I never liked that ship. No need to add -star to everything.
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No need to add -star to everything.
Agreed. "Battlestar" sounds cool - it was a decoration given to ships detailing a number of successful engagements they've been through. "Basestar" is still ok. But putting the -star everywhere kinda gets cheesy.
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No need to add -star to everything.
Agreed. "Battlestar" sounds cool - it was a decoration given to ships detailing a number of successful engagements they've been through. "Basestar" is still ok. But putting the -star everywhere kinda gets cheesy.
cheesystar?
it's basicially the hull of a battlestar, but yellow-white, and has lots of holes for missles and shis to fly through.
gets utterly owned by ratstars though.
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Don't forget the Baltarstar either. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKeBepwwc60
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I sort of treat the "-star" suffix as an abbreviation of "starship", in the same way that "-ship" is tacked onto the end of several kinds of naval vessel.
(Series 3 onwards spoilers)
Does anyone else find it slightly ironic that the Stealthstar, a purpose built stealth ship, was near useless against the Cylons, yet the cobbled together Blackbird was near flawless? Even accounting for the fact that the Blackbird was, in effect, built by a Cylon it amuses me somewhat.
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It's probably the difference of going against specialized border advanced warning systems instead of your basic warship sensor net.
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It's probably the difference of going against specialized border advanced warning systems instead of your basic warship sensor net.
If I remember well, the SS was not hit... that was a collision, so it WAS effectively invisible...until the accident of course.
Blackbird suffered the same fate.
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There's also the fact that the Stealth Star was broadcasting to the Valkyrie, while the Blackbird made it a practice to run silent. And it's always possible that the Admiralty really wanted a war, and the first ship that took a shot at the Stealth Star was Colonial, and only the two that jumped in later were Cylon.
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The Stealthstar is actually a beauty of a ship, a kitbasher made a really nice model of one.
(http://jt-graphics.com/images/BA_StealthStar.png)
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^That actually looks pretty bad ass.
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That makes it seem even more ridiculous. If it's a stealth fighter, why add star to the end?
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Do you know, until this thread, I never even tied in "Stealth Star" With "Battlestar" or "Basestar."
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That makes it seem even more ridiculous. If it's a stealth fighter, why add star to the end?
What exactly is so ridiculous about -naming- it that? It's not like the name itself would give away the position of a stealth craft.
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I think you missed his point there, which was that it's silly to add -star to everything. Especially fighters. Nothing to do with functionality, it's just cheesy.
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:wtf: Whats a matter with -star?
I'm not changing the Garbage Scowstar's name and thats nonnegotiable.
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Star as a suffix is fine. It just doesn't make sense for fighters to have -star added to the end. Battlestars and basestars are large carriers with guns attached, so they have some commonality. If you're going to add -star to any ship, you'd have things like Raptor missile variants being called Missilestars.
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Star as a suffix is fine. It just doesn't make sense for fighters to have -star added to the end. Battlestars and basestars are large carriers with guns attached, so they have some commonality. If you're going to add -star to any ship, you'd have things like Raptor missile variants being called Missilestars.
LOL @ Missilestars.
Whatever the name, the Stealthstar does indeed look pretty awesome.
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That's just a little nitpicky, Narvi, especially considering they could all be classified as "star"fighters. Please don't go into some argument about how star is fine as a prefix but not as a suffix :P.
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Starbattle Galactica? :nervous:
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Oh well now you're just being difficult. :lol:
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"Alright, Nuggetstars, listen up. This should be just a routine patrolstar, but anything could happen out there... anything at all. So stay alert, use your brainstar, and keep your trigger fingerstars hot. Reaver will be flying a missilestar nearby, if you need any support. Let's make sure we all come homestar. Battle stationsstar!"
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Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!
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Nobody Expects the Cylon Inquisition!
"Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to God's Plan, and an immense loadout of conventional and nuclear ordinance!"
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the cynicism is aging me. enough with the stars already
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"Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to God's Plan, and an immense loadout of conventional and Number Six ordinance!"
Fix'd
One last word on the (odd) "star" suffix issue. How does it make more sense for both Cylons and Colonials to use it as a suffix for their carriers than for one or the other to use it as a designation for one of their fighter classes.
There's no real rhyme or reason, in the 70's it merely sounded sci fi and they went with it. By all rights you could argue that only the Basestar should be able to designate "star" at the end of the name as it's actually shaped (to a degree) like a star.
Arguing it any further really will just take this thread down the deep corridor that can be anal retention.
Back on Topic, and Kewl, rock the model!
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One last word on the (odd) "star" suffix issue. How does it make more sense for both Cylons and Colonials to use it as a suffix for their carriers than for one or the other to use it as a designation for one of their fighter classes.
The Cylons were part of the Colonial military at one point.
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This is true, but the Colonials only ended up creating the Battlestars as a result of the Cylon betrayal.
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It seems like this is one of those things that won't be able to be explained by logical means, as there was most likely no logic applied in naming the Stealthstar. Invariably, a group of writers was gathered around a table, writing the script, and when they decided to throw in a stealth fighter, someone decided that Stealthstar sounded l33t. You can spend the rest of your life trying to come up with a fluff reason for why it's named that, or you can just accept it, and move on.
Also, it looks cool, so stop picking on it. :ick:
/end_of_rantstar
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Also, it looks cool, so stop picking on it.
^ This.
On to the more interesting info on this ship. Is it strictly an unarmed ship? It appears to have quite an advanced sensor package on it, and there's no KEW muzzles visible from any of the pics I've seen, though this could be a case of maintaining a stealth profile against sensors (providing it sticks to aerospace rules, which it appears to, aside from the composite hull), and therefore have housed weapons in the case of a skirmish.
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But it's not cool. That's the problem!
There's no point in packing weapons into a scoutship. The better question is: what is its speed? Did the Colonials really expect to find anything out by sending in a subluminal scout ship past the border? What could the Cylons have had there anyway?
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Your opinion notwistanding, it seems it remains outnumbered on the cool factor.
Maybe there isn't any point in having weapons on a scoutship (nevermind that it's nice having it return intact to relay its findings), but that doesn't change the fact that it may, neither your logic or opinion will change any of the canon details.
Consdering the engines on the back of that thing, I'm willing to bet it's quite a bit faster than the Blackbird.
As for what the Colonials thought they were going to find, I also would have been suspicious of an enemy that had completely upped and disappeared after signing a treaty. Turns out they were right in their suspicions, the Cylon fleet that was amassed in that time was nothing short of considerable and can hardly be misconstrued as a defense force, no question it was for attack.
Beyond that, as we learn in Razor, William Adama discovered the experimentation that the Cylons were doing on humans in creating hybrids, I would think this also worthy of investigation, should there be any Cylon force hanging around the border in the hopes of capturing more vessels.
Bottom line, there was more than enough reason for suspicion, hence that mission.
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Turns out they were right in their suspicions, the Cylon fleet that was amassed in that time was nothing short of considerable and can hardly be misconstrued as a defense force, no question it was for attack.
And the Colonial Fleet of 120 Battlestars was for what? Picking daisies? :p
AFAIK there is no proof whatsoever that the Cylons were planning any kind of attack at all until they discovered that the Colonials had broken the armistice by sending a ship across the line on a spying mission. The Cylon fleet does appear to be much smaller than the Colonial one and we've got no idea whether its only purpose originally was defensive.
In fact there are indications that the Colonials actually wanted to restart the war and even that the mission might have been meant as a deliberate provocation designed to lead to a Cylon attack that could be used as the reasoning for a second Cylon war.
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We'll find out more on the cylon side in 'The Plan'
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Also, it looks cool, so stop picking on it.
^ This.
On to the more interesting info on this ship. Is it strictly an unarmed ship? It appears to have quite an advanced sensor package on it, and there's no KEW muzzles visible from any of the pics I've seen, though this could be a case of maintaining a stealth profile against sensors (providing it sticks to aerospace rules, which it appears to, aside from the composite hull), and therefore have housed weapons in the case of a skirmish.
The F22 and F35 look clean from the outside in order to preserve their low radar signatures, but they have ampple internal weapons storage for missiles, bomb and an internally mounted MA61 Vulcan, with doors closing over the barrels. Even the 1960's Blackburn Buccaneer had an internal, reveolving weapons bay to reduce drag. Just because you can't see the armament, don't assume they're not there.
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Also, it looks cool, so stop picking on it.
^ This.
On to the more interesting info on this ship. Is it strictly an unarmed ship? It appears to have quite an advanced sensor package on it, and there's no KEW muzzles visible from any of the pics I've seen, though this could be a case of maintaining a stealth profile against sensors (providing it sticks to aerospace rules, which it appears to, aside from the composite hull), and therefore have housed weapons in the case of a skirmish.
It may or may not be armed, quite frankly being a stealth craft they would not be remiss to mount all the ordinance and KEWs internally behind doors. That way they are only exposed to detection when they are firing. If I recall correctly the F-22 Raptor works in this fashion, even its Vulcan cannon is only exposed when it fires, otherwise its hidden.
EDIT>> Totally ninjad by Snagger :P
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EDIT>> Totally ninjad by Snagger :P
Sorry about that. I'll return you thunder very shortly. :p :D
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So long as I still got my lightning; thunder is only so much noise :D
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I was actually saying precisely that with the weapons being housed in the case of a skirmish. The F-22 example was precisely what I was thinking of when I brought it up. :)
I wasn't trying to prove that the Armistice was broken by the Cylons initially, I was merely thinking that considering what Adama was portrayed as seeing during the events of Razor that he would always maintain his suspcion about the Cylons (also there were some strictly paperback entries into BSG continuity that could support the idea that it was felt necessary to send a ship to scout out the Cylon zone), until eventually he authorized the Stealthstar mission (not sure if that was an executive order that came from someone higher than himself, but it doesn't seem likely).
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AFAIK there is no proof whatsoever that the Cylons were planning any kind of attack at all until they discovered that the Colonials had broken the armistice by sending a ship across the line on a spying mission. The Cylon fleet does appear to be much smaller than the Colonial one and we've got no idea whether its only purpose originally was defensive.
In fact there are indications that the Colonials actually wanted to restart the war and even that the mission might have been meant as a deliberate provocation designed to lead to a Cylon attack that could be used as the reasoning for a second Cylon war.
Actually, I kind of disagree on this.
First of all, remember what John/Cavil did with the final 5 in the show.. that was in preparation for the attack as well. The guy was never really peace-loving, he basically needed to get rid of the 5 who stopped the first war to get his way. The Cylons as a whole may not have struck, sure, but with Cavil at the helm, it was just a matter of time.
Also, the attack they pulled on the colonies had to have taken years of meticulous planning. Plant humanoid agents in key positions, gather intelligence, get a way to shut down their fleet..
Also, take a look at the design changes in their ships between the war, particularly on the basestar. The 1st war era baseship is a massive armored floating fortress that can more then challenge a battlestar in a gun battle. The new basestar introduced in the mini is an entirely different design - sure, it's big, but much more slender-built, this ship was never built to dish it out with the battlestars at close range. This ship's weapons are completely streamlined to function at long range, and coupled with 864 raider racks per ship and much weaker armor then in the previous baseship iteration, you got a vessel that was designed to surprise and overwhelm the enemy from a distance, using it's long range weapons and superior numbers of raiders. I'd characterize that as a first strike weapon.
In a long, drawn-out war you really want ships that can receive a lot of punishment and engage the enemy from every range, from short to long - such as the 1st war era baseship we saw in Razor. If you're expecting to surprise and annihilate your enemy quickly, then the modern basestar is your ship of choice. Pretty much everything we saw of the new cylon tech suggests it was designed as colonial - killers. I don't know exactly how many years before the attack that the ill-fated Valkyrie mission happened, but I'd imagine Cavil's plans were in motion long before then.
Besides, you don't go and annihilate a whole civilization just because they sent a stealth craft over your border to take a few pictures. Yes, it's a provocation, but it hardly warrants genocide. If anything, this event was probably used as an excuse by Cavil to justify his plans to his fellow Cylons.
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Hehe, spin-off thread perhaps?
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AFAIK there is no proof whatsoever that the Cylons were planning any kind of attack at all until they discovered that the Colonials had broken the armistice by sending a ship across the line on a spying mission. The Cylon fleet does appear to be much smaller than the Colonial one and we've got no idea whether its only purpose originally was defensive.
In fact there are indications that the Colonials actually wanted to restart the war and even that the mission might have been meant as a deliberate provocation designed to lead to a Cylon attack that could be used as the reasoning for a second Cylon war.
Actually, I kind of disagree on this.
First of all, remember what John/Cavil did with the final 5 in the show.. that was in preparation for the attack as well. The guy was never really peace-loving, he basically needed to get rid of the 5 who stopped the first war to get his way. The Cylons as a whole may not have struck, sure, but with Cavil at the helm, it was just a matter of time.
Also, the attack they pulled on the colonies had to have taken years of meticulous planning. Plant humanoid agents in key positions, gather intelligence, get a way to shut down their fleet..
Also, take a look at the design changes in their ships between the war, particularly on the basestar. The 1st war era baseship is a massive armored floating fortress that can more then challenge a battlestar in a gun battle. The new basestar introduced in the mini is an entirely different design - sure, it's big, but much more slender-built, this ship was never built to dish it out with the battlestars at close range. This ship's weapons are completely streamlined to function at long range, and coupled with 864 raider racks per ship and much weaker armor then in the previous baseship iteration, you got a vessel that was designed to surprise and overwhelm the enemy from a distance, using it's long range weapons and superior numbers of raiders. I'd characterize that as a first strike weapon.
In a long, drawn-out war you really want ships that can receive a lot of punishment and engage the enemy from every range, from short to long - such as the 1st war era baseship we saw in Razor. If you're expecting to surprise and annihilate your enemy quickly, then the modern basestar is your ship of choice. Pretty much everything we saw of the new cylon tech suggests it was designed as colonial - killers. I don't know exactly how many years before the attack that the ill-fated Valkyrie mission happened, but I'd imagine Cavil's plans were in motion long before then.
Besides, you don't go and annihilate a whole civilization just because they sent a stealth craft over your border to take a few pictures. Yes, it's a provocation, but it hardly warrants genocide. If anything, this event was probably used as an excuse by Cavil to justify his plans to his fellow Cylons.
I gotta agree with newman on this. The Cylon Order of Battle is an important point. Their OrBat was definitely tailor made to compliment their subterfuge operations. Considering the difficulty they have taking down Battlestars, especially a modern unit like the Mercury, the Cylon Fleet probably couldn't have gone toe to toe against the Colonial Navy. This would have been especially at a disadvantage if it were a defensive action. It was however perfect as a first strike weapon for slaughtering the Colonies when their defenses were down. The type of preparation the Cylons would have needed to designed and built such a specialized fleet would have been a major commitment spanning years.
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Don't forget that the Cylons rely on carrier capabilities... they can throw in a large amount of Raiders at their opponents.
Wheter or not the Raiders aren't as skilled as Colonial pilots it's another matter. It wasn't like that at the beginning, dogfights turned to the Colonials' favor for obvious reasons (the number of Vipers was limited, they couldn't lose that many assets). Proof: the Miniseries.
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This ship's weapons are completely streamlined to function at long range, and coupled with 864 raider racks per ship and much weaker armor then in the previous baseship iteration, you got a vessel that was designed to surprise and overwhelm the enemy from a distance, using it's long range weapons and superior numbers of raiders.
We didn't forget :)
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Don't forget that the Cylons rely on carrier capabilities... they can throw in a large amount of Raiders at their opponents.
Wheter or not the Raiders aren't as skilled as Colonial pilots it's another matter. It wasn't like that at the beginning, dogfights turned to the Colonials' favor for obvious reasons (the number of Vipers was limited, they couldn't lose that many assets). Proof: the Miniseries.
One reason Vipers may do better than Raiders is that the Raiders are carrying around FTL drives and long-endurance provisions on a fairly small hull. Vipers, on the other hand, are pure combat birds with fairly limited endurance.
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Besides, you don't go and annihilate a whole civilization just because they sent a stealth craft over your border to take a few pictures. Yes, it's a provocation, but it hardly warrants genocide. If anything, this event was probably used as an excuse by Cavil to justify his plans to his fellow Cylons.
That's only one scenario though. The Cylons may have retaliated with their own spying and discovered that the Colonials were thinking about starting a war and then decided to get in their own strike first.
I did consider Cavil's view but he would have needed to convince the other models to go to war too. The Stealthstar mission could easily have played right into his hands, giving the other Cylons a reason to listen to his desire to wipe out humanity when they otherwise might have ignored him.
As for the Cylon ships being offensive weapons, yes I'll agree they're designed for attack but what did the Cylons have to defend exactly?
Was there any homeworld at all? Or was that simply misdirection to protect The Hub and The Colony.
Cause if that's all they were protecting, it may have been in their interest to have a fast, mobile defence force.
Remember that the Cylon position, as stated by Boomer, was "Does humanity deserve to survive?" Pretty hard to justify that viewpoint when your own side is the aggressor after 40 years of peace.
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Don't forget that the Cylons rely on carrier capabilities... they can throw in a large amount of Raiders at their opponents.
Wheter or not the Raiders aren't as skilled as Colonial pilots it's another matter. It wasn't like that at the beginning, dogfights turned to the Colonials' favor for obvious reasons (the number of Vipers was limited, they couldn't lose that many assets). Proof: the Miniseries.
One reason Vipers may do better than Raiders is that the Raiders are carrying around FTL drives and long-endurance provisions on a fairly small hull. Vipers, on the other hand, are pure combat birds with fairly limited endurance.
Also, Boomer and Cavill called them "Cylon animals".
To me, they are like Wolfs, attack always in packs unless the enemy is already wounded.
They seem to lack the "intelligence" of humans and skinjobs, although they can learn --> Scar.
I also think they haven't been build for dogfights.
The plan was, get access to vital Colonial systems via CNP, upload virus, launch missile, target dead.
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I'm not sure they're just missile platforms, but they're definitely 'Raiders' - fast, agile skirmishers that can jump and hit very rapidly. Prolonged engagements or furballs seem to go towards the Viper. Even Scar wasn't a dogfighter; he bumped distracted targets.
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Starbuck said that he was too good for to have beaten him in a dogfight without it costing her life so I'd say that Scar at the very least was a good dogfighter.
Just cause he was sensible enough to never need to dogfight doesn't mean he wasn't good at it.
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Actually of all the Cylon equipment Raiders are probably the most scary and potentially the most devastating. The base equipment was in a word excellent, combing speed, maneuverability, FTL and a massive payload in a small frame. Lets face it at the outset they were all in effect greenhorns. Well bred hunting animals yes but basically inexperienced. However, with the power of Rez they basically have the ultimate tool in accruing combat experience. I always joke "you don't learn from victory" but defeat certainly does teach the best lessons. It could be argued that if Pegasus and Galactica had not destroyed the Rez ship in season 2 the Raiders would have been on track experience wise to become extremely deadly opponents. Potentially Raiders could have developed into immortal aces, surpassing there human counterparts after they basically learn every trick in the book.
And as for Scar being opportunist and underhanded... thats total bollocks its all about sneaking up behind the bastard and killing him without giving him a chance.
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I did consider Cavil's view but he would have needed to convince the other models to go to war too. The Stealthstar mission could easily have played right into his hands, giving the other Cylons a reason to listen to his desire to wipe out humanity when they otherwise might have ignored him.
That's actually fairly similar to what I said.
The Valk mission could have indeed been a nice argument for his pov. However Cavil was the leader of the 7; sure, they voted on important decisions, but he had a way of getting what he wanted. It's my theory that the Valk mission just made it easier for him. The only reason the first war was stopped (or rather, put on pause) was the toasters entertaining the 5's peace ideas for as long as they needed to get what they want.
As for the Cylon ships being offensive weapons, yes I'll agree they're designed for attack but what did the Cylons have to defend exactly?
I wasn't actually talking in purely offensive/defensive terms. Anything can be offensive or defensive in the hands of a good tactician - what I meant was the type of engagement the new basestars seem to be made for, and that is a typical blitzkrieg; jump in out of enemy's range, hopefully disable them, then use your long range arsenal / swarms of raiders to mop up the rest. I didn't mean just that it was an offensive weapon, I also meant that it wasn't designed for prolonged engagements. As Slayer said, that sort of specialized fleet takes some time and effort to develop, and you don't do that sort of thing without a reason.
"Does humanity deserve to survive" is indeed the repeating pattern throughout the show, but they don't really paint the Cylons as any better, either - I always viewed them as flawed beings, just like humans are when all is said and done.
Of course, both of our viewpoints are pure speculation.. we can interpret the facts either way. It's my opinion that the Cylons were planning a strike on the colonies for years, and the Valkyrie mission was a good excuse that the plans already in motion are justified.
On another note, it's good to be discussing BSG again. I was so getting tired of the trek 11 discussions - this is a lot better :)
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I certainly don't think that Scar's tactics indicated an inability to fight. Many of history's most brilliant aces have emphasized the need to fight dirty - it's even enshrined in the Dicta Boelcke.
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One reason Vipers may do better than Raiders is that the Raiders are carrying around FTL drives and long-endurance provisions on a fairly small hull. Vipers, on the other hand, are pure combat birds with fairly limited endurance.
I was refering to dogfight capabilities.
The Battlestar Wiki states that Viper pilots are better because Vipers are always overwhelmed and survive with very limited losses. That's a debatable assumption, IMO, because in the Miniseries the Raiders were one hell of a threat.
I certainly don't think that Scar's tactics indicated an inability to fight. Many of history's most brilliant aces have emphasized the need to fight dirty - it's even enshrined in the Dicta Boelcke.
According to Erich Hartmann, in fact, dogfighting was a waste of time.
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One reason Vipers may do better than Raiders is that the Raiders are carrying around FTL drives and long-endurance provisions on a fairly small hull. Vipers, on the other hand, are pure combat birds with fairly limited endurance.
I was refering to dogfight capabilities.
Me too. The Raiders are, as mentioned above, a wonderful design, but it seems like they must have had to compromise in at least one area, and straight-up furball agility might be one. Maybe. It's just unsupported supposition.
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It is unsupported because if you watch the Miniseries again you'd notice how different the Raiders' behavior was back then.
IMO the Raiders are awful (Scar excluded) during the rest of the show simply because the show's creators didn't want the Colonials to lose most of their Vipers (as they would in normal conditions). In The Captain's Hand no Vipers are lost... and that's quite pathetic if you ask me.
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It's actually understandable (even if it does a take a stretch of suspending disbelief) that there were next to no Viper losses, the target was the Pegasus, they had (theoretically the time it takes for the Peg to spool up the FTL to jump out again) very little time to inflict enough damage or flat out destroy it (which was likely the goal), it's no wonder the Raiders weren't concerned with getting into the smaller skirmishes, for all intents and purposes the Raiders were just fodder.
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:wtf: Maybe of I write it in simpler words...
Raiders because of the ability to Rez actually have the potential to become the most devastatingly skilled component of the Cylon forces. You kill them with a Thatch Weave the next time they will know to avoid it. Their combat experience is constantly accruing even if they receive combat losses, the knowledge remains intact. The Colonials only saving grace was that at the Battle of the Rez they managed to devastate that knowledge base. The Cylons would have lost much of there crack fighter corps and they would have had to start over again accruing those skilled Raiders. At the time of Captain's Hand the fighters are back at square one skill wise.
But potentially Raiders are a near perfect weapon system, planes are cheap knowledge is priceless.
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I think that's an excellent point, yes.
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I was in no way shape or form disagreeing or arguing about the Raiders and their combat abilities, just tossing out a theory as to why there were no Viper losses in Captain's Hand episode.
What was the topic of this thread again? :lol:
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The profligacy towards the word "star" that was used when naming ships in BSG :P
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Your name has star in it.
Now I want to be a Battutastar.
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To be fair, BSG is hardly the only sci-fi franchise to gratuitously use "star." See also: Starfury, Death star, whitestar, star destroyer, stargate, gunstar, star forge...
Some of these make more sense than others, but most of them are essentially because "star" in the name sounds cool and futuristic somehow.
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Actually, a "battle star" is a US military decoration that indicates the recipient participated in a specific campaign or engagement. It was given to ships as well.. the Enterprise CV-6 had quite a few of them. That's the origin of the "battlestar" name, they thought it would be cool to name a ship class after it. And it is, as long as you don't go plastering the "-star" suffix over everything. I was fine with "basestar", but "stealthstar" sounds silly, even more so when you realize it's a fighter. If anything, they should have sticked with the "-star" suffix for big capships.
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To be fair, BSG is hardly the only sci-fi franchise to gratuitously use "star." See also: Starfury, Death star, whitestar, star destroyer, stargate, gunstar, star forge...
Some of these make more sense than others, but most of them are essentially because "star" in the name sounds cool and futuristic somehow.
Very true!!
But whats a 'deathstar' never heard of that??? Some sort of dying star??? :D :D :D
Starfury -wasnt that in Galactic Civ 2?
But you did forget 'Pornstar' ;) :p