[QuakeIV]

How can I download those?

You don't. Ask Belisarius first.

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[LordPomposity]

How can I download those?

You don't. Ask Belisarius first.

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Your posturing insults us all, QuakeIV. Belisarius will not give up his music.

[QuakeIV]

How can I download those?

You don't. Ask Belisarius first.

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Your posturing insults us all, QuakeIV. Belisarius will not give up his music.

Thems fightin' words, boy.

EDIT: On a side note, is it legal to record that music?

[-Norbert-]

You could just wait till the release and then extract them from the release...
People are so lacking in patience these days

[Luis Dias]

Q4, that depends on the fact of whether those files are under copyright law or not. I don't know the law in this subject, so I assume that they are. Of course, Belisarius could be a nice guy and just say "sure, copy at will", but until then it's up to your own ethics.

If you pirate his songs without his consent, I think that tells you more about yourself than anyone else.

[niffiwan]

After recently finishing WiH I thought I'd jump in to pass on my congrats to the BP team  - AoA & WiH are simply amazing pieces of work, I can't wait to see WiH part 2!

And now, a question In the mission with the Hood & the Serkr team (you're escorting the Agincourt), I've been wondering why the GTVA didn't have a plan to  destroy the intra-system gate in case everything went to hell (as did happen).  Steele seems to be the type to always have a contingency (OK - so the Diomedes could have been the contingency). Anyway the wiki seems to indicate that destroying the gates isn't out of the question from a feasibility point of view. Or from a willpower point of view for that matter given that other gates have been destroyed in the war.

So, destroy the gate and the Agincourt plus escort is going to have to limp through normal space to the next gate, which should give the GTVA plenty of time to try and recapture it again, perhaps by camping outside the next closest gate or plotting a likely course between here & there and filling the area with Auroras...

Am I missing something here?

Edit: freakin typos! 

[The E]

That's assuming that the UEF would be unable to simply get enough support out there to rebuild the Agincourt's jump drive, if given more time.

[Luis Dias]

But the point is interesting. Why wouldn't the GTVA just diss the jump gates, or at least sabotage them, creating problems to UEF operations, and no problem at all to GTVA operations?

[The E]

Because destroying the gates isn't all that straightforward. And because all the important bits of the UEF fleet do not need the gates. And because destroying gates when you do not have to is a bad idea in terms of post-war occupation economy.

[Luis Dias]

Well the ease of sabotaging it is completely dependent to the fiction, so I can see where you can say something the lines of "this is  unsabotageable beause technobabble".

[The E]

It is not unsabotageable. But doing so is about as safe as sabotaging running fusion reactor.

[Scotty]

Just mine the damn things.  Can't make it more impassable than that without sabotaging or destroying them.

[Luis Dias]

Well, as far as I can tell, these gates only got strategically interesting when they wanted to bring the Agincourt to other parts' of the sytem.

I won't even ask on how they brought the Agincourt to that gate at 40ms-1, because a huge plot hole is there waiting to explode, and I don't want to be a party-crasher. Oh wait, I just did.

[The E]

And now you're just trolling.

[Luis Dias]

Yeah, after second thoughts, most probably. They take several days to get there, so it is believable.

[niffiwan]

That's assuming that the UEF would be unable to simply get enough support out there to rebuild the Agincourt's jump drive, if given more time.

I guess that comes down to how long it takes to repair a subspace drive (and how much GTVA drives have diverged from UEF ones over the past 50 years  ) Still, if it were easy to repair I figured that they would have shipped the parts in straight away rather than crawl on sublight for 6 days.  Unless of course the GTVA could track the inbound repair ship and relocate the Agincourt that way...

Because destroying the gates isn't all that straightforward. And because all the important bits of the UEF fleet do not need the gates. And because destroying gates when you do not have to is a bad idea in terms of post-war occupation economy.

Yep, the gates don't matter to the military as all their ships have subspace drives, it's only the civilian commerce that really use the gates and that comes back to the point that the GTVA want to capture the Sol infrastructure intact.  However, I'd have thought the disruption caused by loss of a single gate would be worth being able to hang on to the Agincourt.

Anyway, seeing that destroying the gates isn't straight forward, I'd like to know under what circumstances other the gates were destroyed during the war. I mean, was it accidental destruction, or deliberate? 

Actually, I haven't played TBI yet, but I recall seeing people talk about the GTVA punting a meson bomb through a gate as an area denial weapon - how close was that to the gate when it went off?  If it was close and the gate withstood the blast then it's a pretty resilient gate!

[The E]

The meson warhead didn't move an inch after being dropped through the gate. The gate did not survive the explosion.

[Qent]

Q4, that depends on the fact of whether those files are under copyright law or not. I don't know the law in this subject, so I assume that they are. Of course, Belisarius could be a nice guy and just say "sure, copy at will", but until then it's up to your own ethics.

If you pirate his songs without his consent, I think that tells you more about yourself than anyone else.

The tracks have already been downloaded to my computer for free, because they must have been in order for me to listen to them. It is one of my pet peeves that no convenient way was provided to turn that data into a nice OGG file. Of course, if Belisarius doesn't want me to listen to them offline then I'll respect that, but that seems a little far fetched.

[Luis Dias]

That's the problem of streaming vs downloading, where there is a major "philosophical" discussion all around the nets, since physically you are absolutely right, some kind of copy must have been sent to you in order for you to listen to the music, so "what is the difference", really?

Now, understand that my point is almost academic. I don't know Belisarius that well so I really have no idea where his feelings reside on this issue. Many artists have deep feelings about their works being "used" or downloaded in the airwaves without their consent, and I get that, since I'm a creator myself. However, this is a very open-sourcy thread, and so it is also likely that Belisarius won't have any problem with it.

[QuakeIV]

It would make sense to armor the UEF jump gates, however It seems unlikely that the GTVA would give jump gates higher grade armor than their warships.  Since their warships tend to be raped to hell and back by beam weapons fairly regularly and quite rapidly, so I would assume the gates are quite destroyable by GTVA weaponry.

There are a few ways around that though:

The GTVA might need that gate for future plans of theirs.  Maybe the gate was of more strategic value than the Agincourt.

You could also simply argue that the gates can have all of the armor they want because they never get moved.  Which is rather contrived, though not impossible I suppose.

Q4, that depends on the fact of whether those files are under copyright law or not. I don't know the law in this subject, so I assume that they are. Of course, Belisarius could be a nice guy and just say "sure, copy at will", but until then it's up to your own ethics.

If you pirate his songs without his consent, I think that tells you more about yourself than anyone else.

I will now abbreviate my response: