[Jeff Vader]

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C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Please move your \Freespace 2\ directory to something like C:\games\freespace2\ or something. Program files may be a problematic location, not to mention too long file paths.

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Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 16-bit color...Please open the Video tab of the Launcher. There, set your resolution to at least 1024x768 (preferably the maximum resolution supported by your monitor) and colors to 32-bit.

[knossosfs2]

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C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Please move your \Freespace 2\ directory to something like C:\games\freespace2\ or something. Program files may be a problematic location, not to mention too long file paths.

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Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 16-bit color...Please open the Video tab of the Launcher. There, set your resolution to at least 1024x768 (preferably the maximum resolution supported by your monitor) and colors to 32-bit.

Your advice certainly made the menu and font size different! I'm still having the same error, though. Here is another debug log.

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[The E]

Two things: One. You are not using a 3.6.14 build. Two. Your BP:WiH vp files are out of date.

[knossosfs2]

Two things: One. You are not using a 3.6.14 build. Two. Your BP:WiH vp files are out of date.

Okay. I got the 3.6.14 build and BP:WiH is updating via Freespace Open Installer. Should I download the Main Shaders for 3.6.14 as well, and if so, where should I place it and what should I do with it?

Update: It still isn't working. I got a shorter error message, but that's it. Here is another different debug log.

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[The E]

You should not use the installer, use the direct downloads instead.

[MatthTheGeek]

*sigh*

How do people still even manage to gain access to the installer ? I thought we removed it from all the tutos !

Also, why do people ask for help BEFORE looking at relevant stickies...

[Iss Mneur]

*sigh*

How do people still even manage to gain access to the installer ? I thought we removed it from all the tutos !

But it is still linked at the top of every page...

[Black Wolf]

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C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Please move your \Freespace 2\ directory to something like C:\games\freespace2\ or something. Program files may be a problematic location, not to mention too long file paths.

I've had FS2 in Program files for the last decade, never caused a problem.

[KyadCK]

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C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Please move your \Freespace 2\ directory to something like C:\games\freespace2\ or something. Program files may be a problematic location, not to mention too long file paths.

I've had FS2 in Program files for the last decade, never caused a problem.

Decade implies XP. Vista and 7 are more parinoid about it then XP.

[CT27]

A thought/question on tactical strategy for the final chapter of BP:


Perhaps surprisingly, we didn't see a destroyer (on either side) get destroyed in War in Heaven.  I would almost be willing to be that will change in the next part.

The UEF obviously has a strategy for attacking destroyers, and I have a feeling at least one GTVA destroyer will be lost (though I still hope the GTVA wins ).  However, I also have a feeling at least one of the Solaris-class destroyers will be destroyed as well.  Assuming at least one Solaris gets destroyed, how do you think the GTVA will go about it?

[The E]

I think beams will be involved.

[Klaustrophobia]

i would think bombers would be in the fight also, but probably not the deciding factor.  UEF fighters and point defenses will rape them.

[SpardaSon21]

Please tell me the Solaris goes boom, along with Byrne who valiantly tried to abandon ship at the first sign of beam fire.

[QuakeIV]

I've had FS2 in Program files for the last decade, never caused a problem.

Decade implies XP. Vista and 7 are more parinoid about it then XP.

Incorrect.

C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2

I'm on windows 7.

[KyadCK]

I've had FS2 in Program files for the last decade, never caused a problem.

Decade implies XP. Vista and 7 are more parinoid about it then XP.

Incorrect.
C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2

I'm on windows 7.

Incorrect. Win7 (without pure administrative privleges) WILL be paranoid about files writen to Program Files/(x86). Don't belive me? Go ask on IRC, C:\games\ is always the suggested location. Just because you do it wrong and get away with it does not make the right way incorrect.

I should know, I tend to get away with doing it wrong all the time.

[Fury]

You can manually alter FS2 folder permissions to grant normal user more permissions that he/she otherwise would for any folder under Program Files. That way you get away with stricter Vista/7 permissions. Of course, there may be times when whitespaces or special characters in the folder name will cause issues. I did encounter such problems with some old version of the launcher which crapped out, the bug was fixed later. Also stumbled upon too long file paths on more than one occasion. But since most people are oblivious about such things, it gets easier to just tell them to use C:\Games instead.

Assuming at least one Solaris gets destroyed, how do you think the GTVA will go about it?

Here's a hint. Put a single Solaris in an empty mission and then two Chimeras and one Bellerophon (same as the infamous Sekr team) and let them face the Solaris within range of their beams. See what happens.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

The Diomedes, to me, just shows how much better the Tevs are at building front line warships.

A front-line warship that has next to no forward-firing armaments.

Riiiiight...

[Scotty]

The Diomedes, to me, just shows how much better the Tevs are at building front line warships.

A front-line warship that has next to no forward-firing armaments.

Riiiiight...

I have no idea where you got the idea that front-line = front-firing.  It's just quite simply not true.

A Diomedes will rock a Karuna's world much more easily and in more varied situations than the reverse, all while still sporting a fighter complement and is able to sustain operations for weeks without major resupply.  If that isn't a clearly superior front line ship I'm afraid we've got vastly different definitions of what "superior" means.

[Aesaar]

A front-line warship that has next to no forward-firing armaments.

Riiiiight...

Because in war, the enemy will only ever attack from the front.

A Diomedes can fight two Karunas with a good chance of winning.  A Chimera will have a much harder time.  Why?  Because the Diomedes is not only much better equipped for close range fights, but its beam cannons are much harder to hit.  All it has to do to fight a target directly in front is to pitch forward, and then it's got 3, maybe even all 4 TerSlashBlues firing, which is more firepower than the Chimera can bring to bear.

Its point defenses aren't all that good, but it has a fighter bay, so can carry its own fighter escort.  It's a much better ship than the Deimos, and definitely better at fighting other capital ships than the Karuna is.

[crizza]

And I ask again, would a barrel rolling Diomedes have even a meaner punch?