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Offline An4ximandros

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Al-Da'wa is able to take over certain people and use their bodies for a time.
Ah, like "the player" takes over Laporte's?

 As for the original post: The fiction viewer mentions someone Laporte meets in the shower room being referenced as " That was Al-Da'wa." I was under the impression that his was the first mind to 'bleed' into the Shivan that became Al-Da'wa. And from the Dreamscape conversations, I extrapolated that the Alpha Alpha One was the first human to 'link' into the Nagari Network.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I'm dieing for the next act.

 

Offline Qent

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Does anyone else remember Elders' being called "Elder" because of their incredibly lengthened lifespans?

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Yes, why?

  

Offline Qent

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Just wondering if I imagined it. And if MacDuff was 150 and he's "only" a Gef, then I wouldn't be surprised if some Elders are well over 200. Where were MacDuff's and Calder's ages seen?

 

Offline Apollo

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Well, the Morena's tech description says McDuff was almost 150.
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
And if MacDuff was 150 and he's "only" a Gef
Gefs do not have the same technological level than the Feds nor the Tevs. In some areas, they are more advanced than either, including some specific areas of biology. Comparing the Elder lifespan to MacDuff is not a fair comparison.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I always imagined MacDuff like that dude from Crysis 2, hooked up to an array of machinery dedicated to keeping him alive and unable to move, or even live, outside of it for any amount of time.
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Offline An4ximandros

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
That's... definitely not the impression I got from his head ani...

Also, Hargreave was not hooked up by cables, he was inside of a green 'jelly' tank.

 

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....and Hargreaves' head animation told you so much about what he looked like, right?
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I always imagined MacDuff like that dude from Crysis 2, hooked up to an array of machinery dedicated to keeping him alive and unable to move, or even live, outside of it for any amount of time.

I imagined that MacDuff was old and decrepit, while his wife was fused with the ship and controlling it in some sort of trashuman undeath. Gives a new meaning to "built around his late beloved wife."

Are we going to learn anything more about the Gefs in the rest of WiH? The bits and pieces we learned in Tenebra were quite interesting.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Same here. I'd really like to learn a bit more about the "Greenfly Sleeper" too.

 

Offline Cornix

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I've tried to download the BluePlanetComplete installer three times now, all of them coming down corrupted or not downloading at all. Tried DLing just BluePlanetAoA, same thing.

Please help, I've been needing a Blue Planet fix since 2011. >.>

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I always imagined MacDuff like that dude from Crysis 2, hooked up to an array of machinery dedicated to keeping him alive and unable to move, or even live, outside of it for any amount of time.

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I've tried to download the BluePlanetComplete installer three times now, all of them coming down corrupted or not downloading at all. Tried DLing just BluePlanetAoA, same thing.

Please help, I've been needing a Blue Planet fix since 2011. >.>

Can anyone else verify this?

 

Offline Cornix

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Well, I was finally able to download it properly and got it installed, but now the game crashes after the start screen.

Grr.

Debug log attached.

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
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DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
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FreeSpace 2 Open version: 3.6.18.9546
Passed cmdline options:
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  -3dshockwave
  -3dwarp
  -warp_flash
  -snd_preload
  -mod blueplanet2,blueplanet,mediavps_3612
  -window
Building file index...
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Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-audio1.vp' with a checksum of 0x4f978a6b
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-core.vp' with a checksum of 0x64e738b9
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals1.vp' with a checksum of 0xbaa4dbd6
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals2.vp' with a checksum of 0x9689af32
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\adv-bp.vp' with a checksum of 0x6e9d550d
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-audio1.vp' with a checksum of 0x53c3080c
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-audio2.vp' with a checksum of 0xc9c97c6b
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-core.vp' with a checksum of 0x16ea6fad
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-visuals1.vp' with a checksum of 0x8c01538d
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-visuals2.vp' with a checksum of 0x6a0a46ec
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0x4b8b0f5a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_AnimGlows.vp' with a checksum of 0x6a554026
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x59649c21
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0x529cc70f
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_CB_ANI_1.vp' with a checksum of 0x9c948078
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_CB_ANI_2.vp' with a checksum of 0xb58a1f46
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Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_RadarIcons.vp' with a checksum of 0x31dd7781
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x7c9d7e74
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.vp' with a checksum of 0x6ffd5c78
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x747372cc
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\' ... 0 files
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Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-core.vp' ... 92 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals1.vp' ... 682 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals2.vp' ... 2480 files
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ERROR: Unknown Language Checksum: -1162327434
Using default language settings...
Setting language to English
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_core-lcl.tbm' ...
Initializing OpenAL...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

  Found extension "ALC_EXT_EFX".

  Sample rate: 44100 (44100)
  EFX version: 1.0
  Max auxiliary sends: 1
  Playback device: Generic Software on Speakers and Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
  Capture device: Internal Mic (IDT High Definiti
... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1366x768 with 32-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 24, stencil: 8, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 24, stencil: 8, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor    : Intel
  OpenGL Renderer  : Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
  OpenGL Version   : 4.0.0 - Build 9.17.10.2843

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_float".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: soft-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: soft-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Depth-blended Particles
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: soft-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: soft-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Distorted Particles

  Max texture units: 8 (16)
  Max elements vertices: 1200
  Max elements indices: 1200
  Max texture size: 8192x8192
  Max render buffer size: 4096x4096
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Post-processing enabled: NO
  Using trilinear texture filter.
  OpenGL Shader Version: 4.00 - Build 9.17.10.2843
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 742 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 48 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
Game Settings Table: Using Standard Loops For SEXP Arguments
Game Settings Table: Using standard event chaining behavior
Game Settings Table: External shaders are DISABLED
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_flak-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_dbrs-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_exp-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-turretHotkey-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-trigger-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-tcard-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-stupid-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-equip-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-debrisgrav-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-csc-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-betty-sct.tbm' ...
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp-sdf.tbm' ...
Dutifully ignoring the extra sound values for retail sound 36, 'l_hit.wav'...
Dutifully ignoring the extra sound values for retail sound 37, 'm_hit.wav'...
Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 0
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp-mus.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-mus.tbm' ...
TABLES => Starting parse of 'colors.tbl'...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-mfl.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp-mfl.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-mfl.tbm' ...
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-amr.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-amr.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp-aip.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-aip.tbm' ...
Warning: "$perform less checks for death screams" flag is deprecated in favor of "$perform fewer checks for death screams"
Warning: "$allow primary link delay" flag is deprecated in favor of "$allow primary link at mission start"
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp-wxp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-wxp.tbm' ...
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 75 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (ExpMissileHit1.eff) with 92 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp04.eff) with 49 frames at 22 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp05.eff) with 93 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp06.eff) with 92 frames at 22 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (capflash.eff) with 40 frames at 10 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Maxim_Impact.eff) with 23 frames at 30 fps.
ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted)
BMPMAN: Found EFF (explo3.eff) with 48 frames at 22 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (HFlakExp.eff) with 48 frames at 22 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp06b.eff) with 92 frames at 22 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (bomb_flare.eff) with 69 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp50.eff) with 92 frames at 30 fps.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_core-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_assets-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-wep.tbm' ...
Ignoring free flight speed for weapon 'Trebuchet#Aegis'
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-obt.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp2-obt.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_core-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'radar-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_assets-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'bp-shp.tbm' ...
bp-shp.tbm(line 222): Error: Required token = [#End], [$Subsystem:], [$Name], or [$Template], found [$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow_10:1,2" )].

ERROR: bp-shp.tbm(line 222):
Error: Required token = [#End], [$Subsystem:], [$Name], or [$Template], found [$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow_10:1,2" )].

File: parselo.cpp
Line: 336
Freeing all existing models...

If I'm reading this right, it looks like you missed a key step in the install instructions: you need to use the launcher to select the build that comes with Blue Planet. Other FSO builds lack the necessary features to run BP.

Unfortunately, it also looks like your graphics hardware is well below minimum spec. To work around this, please install the BP low-end compatibility package here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=83606.0

And be sure to follow the instructions there to get the build you need. This one should work http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=84150.0

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Is it saying that I'm using my Intel HD graphics card? I have a NVIDIA Geforce GT630M that the computer sometimes switches from to the Intel.

Also, ran it with the proper build. Is the graphics problem why it crashes and tells me that "Antipodes has stopped working?"

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
You are getting the "Antipodes has stopped working" error because you are below minimum spec and have not installed the compatibility package.

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Is it saying that I'm using my Intel HD graphics card? I have a NVIDIA Geforce GT630M that the computer sometimes switches from to the Intel.

Yes, you need to tell your system to use your Nvidia GPU for Freespace Open.  I'm not 100% sure, but I think there's a list of programs you can configure in your GPU control panel?  (I don't have one of these switchable graphics setups myself)
Creating a fs2_open.log | Red Alert Bug = Hex Edit | MediaVPs 2014: Bigger HUD gauges | 32bit libs for 64bit Ubuntu
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Debian Packages (testing/unstable): Freespace2 | wxLauncher
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