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Title: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Sandwich on June 19, 2015, 05:17:32 am
So I've been re-reading the Thrawn trilogy for the umpteenth time recently, but unlike previous readings, I've had certain ideas come to mind regarding who I think would be the best actors in each role. I'd like to share those ideas, as well as find out from you who you think would be good. So without further ado:


Take it from there, HLP. :)
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Wobble73 on June 19, 2015, 05:46:53 am
How about Milla Jojovich for Mara Jade?
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: headdie on June 19, 2015, 06:13:18 am
I think Scarlett Johansson for Mara Jade
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: swashmebuckle on June 19, 2015, 03:25:14 pm
Koalas for Ysalamiri
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 19, 2015, 03:45:05 pm
Quote from: headdie on June 19, 2015, 06:13:18 am
I think Scarlett Johansson for Mara Jade

Seconded. Be good to see her with a more complex script, and I think she could actually handle it.

Pelleaon...we need someone with a British accent and respectful but earnest questioning of Thrawn's actions. Anthony Howell (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0397928/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t3)?
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Luis Dias on June 19, 2015, 04:51:57 pm
Joe Pesci as Zahn.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Scotty on June 19, 2015, 05:14:58 pm
Quote from: NGTM-1R on June 19, 2015, 03:45:05 pm
Quote from: headdie on June 19, 2015, 06:13:18 am
I think Scarlett Johansson for Mara Jade

Seconded. Be good to see her with a more complex script, and I think she could actually handle it.

Pelleaon...we need someone with a British accent and respectful but earnest questioning of Thrawn's actions. Anthony Howell (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0397928/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t3)?

Literally anyone who has ever played Dr. Watson well, because Thrawn is Sherlock Holmes in Space.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: headdie on June 19, 2015, 06:32:23 pm
Quote from: Scotty on June 19, 2015, 05:14:58 pm
Literally anyone who has ever played Dr. Watson well, because Thrawn is Sherlock Holmes in Space.

That got me thinking Benedict Cumberbatch for Thrawn, I mean come on highly intellectual, analytical and decisive character playing the game both short and long term at the same time and will do what he thinks is needed to achieve his goals with morals a factor but not the end all of his thinking.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 19, 2015, 06:37:50 pm
Thrawn isn't Sherlock though; he's a man of more refinement and tact, and he's capable of a fatherly aspect at times that Sherlock simply lacks. I can't see Cumberbatch pulling that last one off.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: headdie on June 19, 2015, 06:54:28 pm
Quote from: NGTM-1R on June 19, 2015, 06:37:50 pm
Thrawn isn't Sherlock though; he's a man of more refinement and tact, and he's capable of a fatherly aspect at times that Sherlock simply lacks. I can't see Cumberbatch pulling that last one off.

I wouldnt go as far as to say Thrawn is fatherly, A mentor certainly, though from one piece of acting on British TV that springs to mind he can certainly do approachable.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Phantom Hoover on June 19, 2015, 07:01:20 pm
Apart from anything else Cumberbatch looks too young to play Thrawn.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: StarSlayer on June 19, 2015, 07:24:42 pm
Marc Strong could pull off the blue.  Gary Oldman would be a good Pelleaon.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Mr. Vega on June 19, 2015, 09:46:14 pm
How fun would Oldman as Karrde be though?

And since we'd need to recast the leads, I think Jennifer Lawrence could definitely become Leia.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Sandwich on June 20, 2015, 07:06:11 am
Quote from: Mr. Vega on June 19, 2015, 09:46:14 pm
How fun would Oldman as Karrde be though?

I like the way you think. :)

Quote from: Mr. Vega on June 19, 2015, 09:46:14 pm
And since we'd need to recast the leads, I think Jennifer Lawrence could definitely become Leia.

Oh yeah, the original cast would need to be recast. Bummer, I hate that kind of stuff. Ok, well I've posted about this before (or perhaps tweeted?), but Guy Pearce can definitely do Han Solo... just check out his performance in Lockout (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1592525/).
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Damage on June 20, 2015, 10:03:36 pm
Peter Serafinowicz as Thrawn.  And not just his voice, either.

Viggo Mortensen as Talon Kaarde.  Good and evil in one neat package.  I really miss this guy as a non-hero!
Barring him, I'd love to see Treat Williams do another antihero role, this is close!

Sean Bean as Pellaeon--with or without beard?

Nathan Fillion as Han Solo?  Anyone?
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 20, 2015, 10:20:05 pm
Quote from: Damage on June 20, 2015, 10:03:36 pm
Sean Bean as Pellaeon--with or without beard?

With beard. Also, this is genius for so many reasons. (An actor known for dying, as the Imperial officer who essentially became Supreme Commander Imperial Forces because he was the last officer of the pre-Endor generation left.)
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Damage on June 20, 2015, 10:30:39 pm
I know right??  Update:  Clancy Brown as Jorus C'Baoth.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Sandwich on July 06, 2015, 05:54:27 am
Quote from: Damage on June 20, 2015, 10:03:36 pm
Peter Serafinowicz as Thrawn.  And not just his voice, either.

Too young IMO, but perhaps in 10 years....


Quote from: Damage on June 20, 2015, 10:03:36 pm
Viggo Mortensen as Talon Kaarde.  Good and evil in one neat package.  I really miss this guy as a non-hero!
Barring him, I'd love to see Treat Williams do another antihero role, this is close!

Ahh! This I like!


Quote from: Damage on June 20, 2015, 10:03:36 pm
Sean Bean as Pellaeon--with or without beard?

Had Bean been less well-known, perhaps, but I feel like he's too famous for this role... needs to be someone less recognizable IMO. Also, Pellaeon doesn't die, so no. :p


Quote from: Damage on June 20, 2015, 10:03:36 pm
Nathan Fillion as Han Solo?  Anyone?

Depends on the tone of the movie. If the director wants to combine the comedic relief of Binks/Threepio with the roughness of Han Solo, then perhaps the Firefly-esque Fillion could pull it off. Definitely not the Castle Fillion though - too immature.


Quote from: Damage on June 20, 2015, 10:30:39 pm
Clancy Brown as Jorus C'Baoth.

Possibly, but he might potentially be too typecast for the role - C'baoth isn't supposed to be a rankled and rogue US military general, and that's all I personally see when I see Brown's face... :p
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: headdie on July 06, 2015, 07:37:32 am
what's the obsession with too young? I mean yes Thrawn is an older guy but 1) he is an alien and following on from that 2) it will take a good makeup job so that the actor dosnt look like a blued up human anyway and aging effects should be well within the makeup department's abilities
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Gee1337 on July 06, 2015, 10:03:06 am
Iain Glen as Pelleaon. (Perhaps even Daniel Craig, but I think he is too typecast as Bond now)

Peter Dinklage for R2D2

For me, I think Michael Fassbender must play Thrawn.

For a re-cast... how about Hugh Jackman as Han?

I think someone slightly older would be needed to play Mara Jade, so how about Nicole Kidman?
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Sandwich on July 06, 2015, 11:10:09 am
Quote from: Gee1337 on July 06, 2015, 10:03:06 am
For me, I think Michael Fassbender must play Thrawn.

Not seeing it... :p



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Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Luis Dias on July 06, 2015, 11:44:35 am
Fillion as Han Solo is just crossing the beams. I mean, Firefly was basically "Star Wars without Luke Skywalker", and Fillion playing Han Solo.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Damage on July 06, 2015, 12:13:49 pm
I maintain Clancy Brown as C'Baoth.  Check out recent pics of him with beard and all.

Gregory Peck would be almost perfect as Thrawn is he was in his 40's today.  I just keep coming back to the notion that his voice will be almost more important than the actor's appearance.

Vince Vaughn as Niles Ferrier--neato combination of bumbling oaf and threatening mercenary.

William Hurt as Garm Bel Iblis.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Gee1337 on July 06, 2015, 02:48:32 pm
Quote from: Sandwich on July 06, 2015, 11:10:09 am
Quote from: Gee1337 on July 06, 2015, 10:03:06 am
For me, I think Michael Fassbender must play Thrawn.

Not seeing it... :p

LMAO!

I think that actually looks quite convincing! We have never had a true representation of Thrawn brought to life, so there is a lot of room for various holes that can be plugged. His hair on IMDB looks slicked back and I think it could work!
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Sandwich on July 21, 2015, 06:57:32 am
Quote from: Damage on July 06, 2015, 12:13:49 pm
I maintain Clancy Brown as C'Baoth.  Check out recent pics of him with beard and all.

He'd have to manage to ditch the military-esque demeanor he has in everything I've seen him in at least... C'baoth needs to be regal, crazy, and ancient all at once. I don't see any of that in Clancy Brown.

Quote from: Damage on July 06, 2015, 12:13:49 pm
Gregory Peck would be almost perfect as Thrawn is he was in his 40's today.  I just keep coming back to the notion that his voice will be almost more important than the actor's appearance.

Whenever I get a picture in my head of Thrawn, I imagine someone with a vaguely rectangular head, rather than rounded. Am I the only one?

Quote from: Damage on July 06, 2015, 12:13:49 pm
Vince Vaughn as Niles Ferrier--neato combination of bumbling oaf and threatening mercenary.

All of my yes!

Quote from: Damage on July 06, 2015, 12:13:49 pm
William Hurt as Garm Bel Iblis.

Yeah yeah yeah!



Also: Hmmm...

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fe/e8/66/fee8661151ba6a61d862c191051b64c0.jpg)
(http://www.whysoseriousredux.com/suspects/dawes.jpg)
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Luis Dias on July 21, 2015, 07:23:10 am
O_o How didn't I ever noticed that? o_O
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Sandwich on August 24, 2015, 03:19:02 pm
Quote from: Sandwich on July 06, 2015, 11:10:09 am
Quote from: Gee1337 on July 06, 2015, 10:03:06 am
For me, I think Michael Fassbender must play Thrawn.

Not seeing it... :p



Heh... I was trying to see if Google had indexed my Fassbender/Thrawn thing, and found this instead (sauce (https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/19o9wr/i_see_your_tarkin_and_raise_you_thrawn/)):

(http://i.imgur.com/H29cPqE.jpg)
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Scourge of Ages on August 24, 2015, 06:57:56 pm
Looks about right.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Sandwich on July 18, 2016, 10:03:08 am
Soo...... I'll just leave this here.

(point of interest starts at around 1:43)


In case the significance of the above video isn't clear, I'll spell it out:

Spoiler:
After Disney bought Lucasfilm and thus Star Wars, they decided that everything they produced, across all forms of media, would be considered "canon", on the same level of canonicity (?) as the films themselves. Video games, TV shows, books, comics, and of course the movies - all canon. Everything from the Expanded Universe (EU) that went before that point was relabeled "Legends" and allowed to continue to exist, but not be considered canon.

The appearance of the heretofore purely EU/Legends character of Grand Admiral Thrawn in this trailer for the fully-canon Star Wars Rebels series makes the character of Thrawn fully canon. That does not necessarily include any of the stories that have been written around him, but with the references in the trailer to studying a species' art to learn about them, and to him being a superior tactician, and even the calm and cultured voice they have for him, it's clear that the core essentials that made Thrawn such a superb antagonist in the books are fully intact.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Det. Bullock on July 18, 2016, 10:20:48 am
Ha, now can we have a reimaginign of Tie Fighter in the new SWEU canon?
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Scourge of Ages on July 18, 2016, 08:23:17 pm
This is a show I really NEED to begin watching.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 18, 2016, 09:14:35 pm
Oh, Rebels is nothing.

Timothy Zahn is working on a new Thrawn book.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Scourge of Ages on July 18, 2016, 11:08:39 pm
Quote from: NGTM-1R on July 18, 2016, 09:14:35 pm
Oh, Rebels is nothing.

Timothy Zahn is working on a new Thrawn book.

That too.

EDIT: Wait, does that mean that NuThrawn in the book would be new canon, as well? Or does that thing just apply to the media like movies and TV?
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on July 18, 2016, 11:36:30 pm
Quote from: Scourge of Ages on July 18, 2016, 11:08:39 pm
Wait, does that mean that NuThrawn in the book would be new canon, as well? Or does that thing just apply to the media like movies and TV?
New novel is new canon (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thrawn_(novel)).
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on July 21, 2016, 03:55:05 pm
Quote from: Jammer on July 21, 2016, 02:50:27 pm
I think I saw a YT-2000 in there near the start . I guess we can expect a Dash Rendar cameo too seeing as though they are digging up old characters..
They've already said we won't be seeing Dash Rendar and that the ship was just a reference.
Title: Re: Cast for Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy (unfortunately, merely hypothetical)
Post by: Det. Bullock on July 21, 2016, 04:55:55 pm
Quote from: Jammer on July 21, 2016, 02:50:27 pm
I think I saw a YT-2000 in there near the start . I guess we can expect a Dash Rendar cameo too seeing as though they are digging up old characters..

It's a YT-2400, the YT-2000 is a differend kinf of ship.

Quote from: AdmiralRalwood on July 21, 2016, 03:55:05 pm
Quote from: Jammer on July 21, 2016, 02:50:27 pm
I think I saw a YT-2000 in there near the start . I guess we can expect a Dash Rendar cameo too seeing as though they are digging up old characters..
They've already said we won't be seeing Dash Rendar and that the ship was just a reference.
They said the ship was the same model, the YT-2400, just not the Outrider but a random YT-2400.