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Offline Dragon

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Yeah, I really wish someone made and finished a HTL Demon. A handful of people attempted it and none of them ever got into texturing phase. Ravana could perhaps use a touch-up, but not quite as badly.

 
Did anyone actually UV map a HTL Demon? I never saw any thread on it.
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Nobody I know of has even gotten far enough to need to UV a high-poly demon. Every effort I can remember seeing never got past modeling the "head" of the ship.
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Bobboau had a finished model, it was only Esarai who stopped at the head.
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So why was nothing done with Bobbau's model, then? I mean, I know how it was with the Orion. You had Bob's model, and Trashman's and someone else's and a big fight over which one should be used that took a long time to sort out, but if there's only one fully made high poly Demon, what happened?
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Because Bob's Demon wasn't very good, as I recall. Much like the current HTL Deimos, it didn't really add enough detail to be a good upgrade over the old one.
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Yeah as soon I as I saw that "Bobboau finished a high poly Demon model"... I though.. yeah. "high poly". How long ago was Bob actively modding? 10 years now, maybe? Just think what we considered HTL 10 years ago and remember that it still wasn't good enough.
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But I guess it's still any improvement compared to retail Demon. Can I have this model anyhow? I'm curious about it...
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I did see that WIP Demon in someone's p3d, but can't quite remember whose it was.

On the topic of those boxy turrets, a quick temporary solution is lending higher detailed turrets from other ships. It could make the Demon significantly more effective at defense, too, if placed correctly, such as with rotating turrets.
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I did see that WIP Demon in someone's p3d, but can't quite remember whose it was.

Esarai's one?

https://p3d.in/wKnT9

 

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But I guess it's still any improvement compared to retail Demon. Can I have this model anyhow? I'm curious about it...

It's not like we have the model sitting on our FSU SVN and refuse to use it. Anything the FSU has, is generally already released either individually or in the MediaVPs. The only thing of interest on the FSU SVN is the work done to make all these assets into a bug-free pack upgrade.

I suppose it is possible one of the other long-time members downloaded the model and intended to add it to the MediaVPs and never got around to it.... best bet would be Zacam on that one.
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I did see that WIP Demon in someone's p3d, but can't quite remember whose it was.

Esarai's one?

https://p3d.in/wKnT9

That's the one I remember, yeah. Good find.
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On that note, I really hope Esarai will finish those other great ships in that p3d.
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Re: The HTL Sath is broken
I made an HTL Demon?
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I  thought Trashman had been working one... a LONG time ago.
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I remember that one, but all these people are talking about the HTL Demon that I supposedly made, even giving criticism about it and ****. Did I just forget? I guess it's possible, it was more than a decade ago.
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Re: The HTL Sath is broken
I  thought Trashman had been working one... a LONG time ago.

Man the HTL Demon's been started and abandoned by like 5 people. Nobody knows anymore.
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Re: The HTL Sath is broken
I remember one that had like ram horns or something
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Offline mjn.mixael

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Re: The HTL Sath is broken
Bumping this thread. If someone has a fixed up POF, I'll use it in the new MediaVPs which I'm trying to release ASAP.
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Re: The HTL Sath is broken
New MediaVPs? Sweet!

Haven't got a fixed Sath POF, but there's a minor issues with its table as well.  mv_assets-shp.tbm adds the Long Range Flak to Turret 49 and 50 again, so whenever said weapon is removed from the original weapons.tbl the Sath will have 2 missing weapons.

 

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Re: The HTL Sath is broken
New MediaVPs? Sweet!

Haven't got a fixed Sath POF, but there's a minor issues with its table as well.  mv_assets-shp.tbm adds the Long Range Flak to Turret 49 and 50 again, so whenever said weapon is removed from the original weapons.tbl the Sath will have 2 missing weapons.

That's just something that will affect all mods using many mediavps ships. I've long wanted a +nocreate variant +remote or something.. but for now the only solution is to replace mv_assets-ship.tbm with your mod's own version. Unless, of course, I'm forgetting something and turret 49/50 aren't in retail or supposed to be flak.
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