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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: DCFan on January 10, 2011, 07:17:29 pm
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I hate the Terran ship design, it looks so terrible, anyone else prefer the original ship look?
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The...what now? What Terran ship design? Which ship in particular?
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That's not from the trailer. The basic ship design is from FreeSpace 2. What you actually see in the trailer are the Media VP high-poly versions of the originals. All the trailer did was put it together in one smooth shot of awesome.
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If you mean the fact that it uses a Herc2 in the Apollo's role, well...
1) Whatever. Not like the rest of the cutscene was consistent with the FS1 intro
2) Make us a high-poly Apollo and we'll use it. The original model kinda sucks because it's basically the original + cockpit.
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I hate the Terran ship design, it looks so terrible, anyone else prefer the original ship look?
wuh.. what? :wtf:
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The...what now? What Terran ship design? Which ship in particular?
The main fighter at the beginning of the FreeSpace Open trailer. Where he's all like "no, send fighters!"
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Yeah, that's the Herc II, and I'll agree it is a pretty ugly potato-looking fighter
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The...what now? What Terran ship design? Which ship in particular?
The main fighter at the beginning of the FreeSpace Open trailer. Where he's all like "no, send fighters!"
Um did you ever play FreeSpace 2?
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Okay, so maybe the Herc2 wasn't the prettiest fighter to open with, but people are gonna recognize it sure as hell and that's the point.
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I hate the Terran ship design, it looks so terrible, anyone else prefer the original ship look?
Huh. I don't think I've ever met anyone that prefers the retail Herc II model. What exactly don't you like about it? Or do you mean as opposed to the Apollo, the ship that was in the FS1 intro cutscene, which is what the voice clip was cut from?
EDIT:
Original Herc II:
(http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/images/Gtfherculesmarkii-old.jpg)
MVP Herc II:
(http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/images/Gtfherculesmarkii.jpg)
I suppose it's not the biggest change in quality that could've been shown between Retail and the MVPs, but I like the Herc II design. It's like a bumblebee. :(
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It's Kappa 3 from an alternate universe.
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Ok, flip the Herc II upside down, now it looks like two potatoes connected to a chicken neck with a knife sticking out. Doesn't look good enough to put on a plate and eat, though.
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I believe he's talking about the design change from the Apollo to the Herc II.
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1) Whatever. Not like the rest of the cutscene was consistent with the FS1 intro
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I believe he's talking about the design change from the Apollo to the Herc II.
I realize that vanman, my post was in reference to thesizzler's post.
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Agreed, I think the Herc II is ugly. There aren't many other options though, since the rest of the trailer only uses FS2 ships.
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I like the Herc II. It's one of the classic FS2 ship designs. The Media VP does change the look a bit, whether or not it's good is up to the individual.
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Me too, I thought its design was quite cool when I was younger.
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You know after the recent discussion on discouraging people you thing there would be a little more tact in stating exactly what isn't liked and why. Yea it's not the FS1 trailer or the FS2 trailer but it's a damn good trailer. Criticizing the ship it one thing, telling the artist that the design isn't good is a whole other story and likely to discourage further awesome work.
So can it and think before you post.
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Herc II is uggo (always has been, and IMO the MVP version does nothing to improve it), but the trailer is awesome.
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Like I've said, that trailer pretty much misses the point of showing the awesomeness on the MVPs as it retrains itself from showing Zods. Put Hatties in there and it'll be awesome, until that it's nothing but a frakkingly wasted opportunity.
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This thread is now about appreciating how awesome the Herc Mk. II is. :p Does anyone else remember an absolutely awesome fanart of the Mk. II? It was drawn I think by a Japanese fan.
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Wasted opportunity?
Your love of fisheads has blinded you!
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IT WAS GREAT! Despite the lack of Zods, it was really great. And the Herc 2 is a nice ship. Maybe not most beautiful, maybe not the most fearsome looking, but it looks as it should and it does it's job.
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Does anyone else remember an absolutely awesome fanart of the Mk. II? It was drawn I think by a Japanese fan.
Yes, I remember that. It was a piece of cover art for a document about the Herc Mk2 written in the style of an aircraft profile, a bit like one of those Squadron/Signal Publications that you can get for real aircraft. It also covered the Ares too, but I wasn't able to really understand much of it. I'm fairly certain that this was the link in question but it no longer works: http://www3.osk.3web.ne.jp/~yonehara/gtva1.zip, however I have the document saved on my HD if anyone would like to look at it.
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The Apollo is, frankly, a better looking ship. It looks smaller, older, frailer, and generally better shot up. The Herc 2 is so freaking smooth, random particle trails don't do the job.
Not to mention the fact that the Apollo gives it extra 'WHOA!!!' factor, since everyone here, and in my case all my friends, have seen the FS1 intro (I stuffed it down their throats). So you see the imagery from the FS1 intro, and the view starts panning away from where Ash (or whoever) died, and then 'ZOMG' in swoops what is, metaphorically, SCP/FSO/MVPs. In a way, you're showing all the old stuff, that we all recognize for Freespace, an old game, that's dead. The bit from the FS1 intro ends, and then in comes FSO to the rescue, resulting in a massive battle that shows off everything the game has to offer.
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When I was younger I remember being convinced the Herc 2 was a step down from the original due to having 2 less gunbanks (how many gunbanks a ship had was basically my way of deciding a ship's worth at the time).
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The...what now? What Terran ship design? Which ship in particular?
The main fighter at the beginning of the FreeSpace Open trailer. Where he's all like "no, send fighters!"
Um did you ever play FreeSpace 2?
No, only the first one (and The Silent Threat), why?
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Well, what are you waiting for.
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Do play the second game. It is rather good.
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Well, what are you waiting for.
I don't have any money to buy it.
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Well, what are you waiting for.
I don't have any money to buy it.
It's only a couple bucks on GOG.com unless something has changed.
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It costs about as much as my lunch sandwich. Granted my lunch sandwich is a total ripoff, but $6 ain't bad.
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It keeps baffling me how people can claim that they can't cough up $6 for a game.
6. dollars.
or hell, its even less if you are paying in euros
Skip sandwich, aquire hours of fun.
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I like the Herc II. It's one of the classic FS2 ship designs. The Media VP does change the look a bit, whether or not it's good is up to the individual.
I too am a Herc II advocate. Why? In some regards, I do like its appearance, though it does have its own share of problems. Moreover, though, it might be from an in-game relation of what the fighter does. In that sense, it's probably why I loved the Y-Wing - it was the instant death-note to TIE Fighters in X-Wing.
There are some odd details in the updated model, but in all honesty, their subtleties work with the original design in my opinion. Those details could have been better worked out in my opinion, but I'm not too worried right now about those. I did have some artwork a while back which demonstrated a rather sleek Herc II, but I'm not all that impressed with the piece now.
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I might as well upload the image I was referring to; it's not great, but then again, it was from a while ago:
(http://amaqbw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pSPitFSIuOTweq8kJq6_8xvBV6exfpc4Rv04hX0fYv2KWVOlyqhiIWWxBpwbmN0SNNwJtaSV_VrzOlUGRkG0Qz74Kjv33B2sT/Herc%202%20Sketch.JPG?psid=1)
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Yea it looks humble and modest. But it's a workhorse, not a damn film star!
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I thought they also continued the transition between the Mk. I and Mk. II rather well, better than a lot of other stuff I've seen - there's a clear lineage between the two models.
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*snip*
Whoa, I reckon that's actually quite a cool piece of artwork. :) Makes me want to fly one. :P
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Buy FS2. DU ET NAU!
And if all else fails, you can always [REMOVED BY ADMIN].
EDIT: User has been banned for violation of terms of use.
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Buy FS2. DU ET NAU!
And if all else fails, you can always [REMOVED BY ADMIN].
EDIT: User has been banned for violation of terms of use.
Why do i seriously doubt the sincerity of the above "comment"?
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*snip*
Whoa, I reckon that's actually quite a cool piece of artwork. :) Makes me want to fly one. :P
That's how it should look if it's supposed to be faster than the Mk. 1.
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True. :D
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Buy FS2. DU ET NAU!
And if all else fails, you can always [REMOVED BY ADMIN].
EDIT: User has been banned for violation of terms of use.
Fury, your ban didn't take. :rolleyes:
Corrected.
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Buy FS2. DU ET NAU!
And if all else fails, you can always [REMOVED BY ADMIN].
EDIT: User has been banned for violation of terms of use.
Fury, your ban didn't take. :rolleyes:
Corrected.
yeah smf 2.0 bans are usually a bit hard to get right.
Also, are there hostnames or IP adresses in the ban triggers? this usually works when people have a static address, but not with dynamic ones. on pages i admin on, i usually put triggers on username and email.
done with OT stuff.
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You know, some people can't cough up $6 for a game. Not because they don't have it, but because they don't have a Credit Card. Now, before you go and say PayPal, PayPal requires a backup method of payment before it'll let you use it. Such as a Credit Card.
Just a thought to put out.
Edit: Or, at least, that's the problem I've had with PayPal. I went to setup an account, thinking "Cool I can use it straight from my Chequing account" but then it asked be for a CC for a backup payment method and I had to bum my sisters CC # so I can use it.
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Don't know what it's like now, but five or six years ago when I last used paypal, it allowed me to transfer funds from my bank account directly into my paypal account with a day or two delay and a charge for the transaction.
Worked swimmingly without a credit card.
Then I got a whole bunch of them and never had to use PayPal again.
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Buy FS2. DU ET NAU!
And if all else fails, you can always [REMOVED BY ADMIN].
EDIT: User has been banned for violation of terms of use.
Fury, your ban didn't take. :rolleyes:
Corrected.
My ban? I only now noticed the post and that he was banned. Look for Goober. :p
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You know, some people can't cough up $6 for a game. Not because they don't have it, but because they don't have a Credit Card. Now, before you go and say PayPal, PayPal requires a backup method of payment before it'll let you use it. Such as a Credit Card.
Just a thought to put out.
Yes, but in this case
I don't have any money to buy it.
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Well, ultimately it's like this...
If you need to resort to dark corners and shadowy recesses, you will do so regardless of us telling you not to. However, we will not condone, support, or allow advocacy of such on the forums here...
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Well, ultimately it's like this...
If you need to resort to dark corners and shadowy recesses, you will do so regardless of us telling you not to. However, we will not condone, support, or allow advocacy of such on the forums here...
here here!
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Is Trashman gone for good then?
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No more tiles ?
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Is Trashman gone for good then?
Damn, I wanted him to raaaageee about my criticism of SotS
EDIT: Color
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He should be let back in after a while, I hope.
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Well, ultimately it's like this...
If you need to resort to dark corners and shadowy recesses, you will do so regardless of us telling you not to. However, we will not condone, support, or allow advocacy of such on the forums here...
here here!
You mean "hear hear" =P
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Is Trashman gone for good then?
I had no idea how long Goober (or whoever it was) wanted to ban him for so I banned him for 3 days. If the admin responsible thinks that's not long enough they can extend the ban. I was just stopping him posting in the meanwhile cause I noticed him continue to post after I saw the edited post.
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Is it possible that he wrote that himself as a joke? :nervous:
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Is it possible that he wrote that himself as a joke? :nervous:
That was the possibility that occurred to me. Usually when a mod edits somebody else's post, they will add "edited by [modname]"
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Hmmmmm. That is a good point actually. I'll ask on the internal.
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Oh wow. :lol:
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You should be able to tell on the Moderation Log if any changes were made to the right honorable gentleman's post.
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Is Trashman gone for good then?
Damn, I wanted him to raaaageee about my criticism of SotS
EDIT: Color
:lol:
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Is it possible that he wrote that himself as a joke? :nervous:
That's what I thought too. Oops? :D
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Is it possible that he wrote that himself as a joke? :nervous:
That's what I thought too. Oops? :D
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! ;7
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I'm pretty sure it was TrashMan's attempt at a joke, which fired back at him. There's no indication in moderation log that Goober would have been involved in this either. And as has been pointed out, there's no edited message footer in TrashMan's post, which there would be if it had been edited by admin or moderator.
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heh, Maybe for just a moment he thought he managed to ban himself. :lol:
PayPal needs a Credit Card to use... I checked.
Back on-topic, I suffer a love-hate relationship with the Mk. II. While it brings back the good ol'times of blasting Shivans in the Mk. I with superior firepower, the Mk. II seems to have lost some of the appeal. Maybe it's I shot too many NTF down flying, or maybe it just looks weird... :blah:
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I'm pretty sure it was TrashMan's attempt at a joke, which fired back at him. There's no indication in moderation log that Goober would have been involved in this either. And as has been pointed out, there's no edited message footer in TrashMan's post, which there would be if it had been edited by admin or moderator.
I tend to agree so I've reversed the ban. As I've pointed out on the admin forum it was late at night and there was a previous ban on the log with his name on it (which I automatically assumed was the one Fury had tried).
Sorry Trashman.
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This thread went from someone who hasn't played FS2 complaining about the use of the Herc II over the Apollo, to moderation gold.
I love HLP.
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:lol:
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In order to show my penitence I gave myself a new title to match Trashman's. :p
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Well I'm glad all of this got straightened out. :drevil:
also the herc II = super cool, just to stay on topic
dem engine nacelles
I'd tap that with double harpoons
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In order to show my penitence I gave myself a new title to match Trashman's. :p
:lol:
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Is it possible that he wrote that himself as a joke? :nervous:
Very much possible. :lol: :lol:
And a joke that worked far better than intended... I was wondering how long it would take from people to figure it out (especially that the post was never really edited - it was lacking the "edited by" part.)
Oh boy..now what would I do if the ban stuck? :drevil:
nothing to be sorry about Batt. It was my joke ;)
And speaking of fun jokes - my forum sig can actually be interpreted in several way. Some of the subtelty is lost in translation, but it can also be interpreted as "the forum is overrun by monkies" (as in, the majoritiy of people are stupid). :D
Dear lord...It's been 5 minutes and I still can't stop snickering like a moron
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you can claim that when no croatians are present. just a friendly reminder, our dearest trashcan man.
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claim what? :blah:
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claim what? :blah:
... my forum sig can actually be interpreted in several way. Some of the subtelty is lost in translation.
you can claim that when no croatians are present. just a friendly reminder, our dearest trashcan man.
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I suspect that was meant to be "you can't claim that"
Can't make head nor tails of what it was meant to mean otherwise. :p
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oooh ooh pick me I can
As someone fluent in the language, pecenipicek is declaring Trashman's statement misleading, and stating that he can only hope to get away with such falsehoods when no other speakers are present!
GOLD STAR BATTUTA
no, really, i couldn't, i don't deserve this praise
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I'm not claiming anything that isn't true. :D
After all, the "ran by /ruled over /governed" doesn't always mean a legitimate leadership 8as it can also imply mob rule or rule by majority). So yes, it can be interpreted a different way. Doesn't mean it's the true meaning tough :P
But it matters not...back on topic. My joke has de-railed us enough as it is.
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yes yes, do explain it to the poor englishfolk about many many possible meanings of each and every sentence in croatian. and the possible innuendos.
now thats fun.
but dont mislead them that the contents of your sig mean anything else, or that they can even be interpreted as anyhting else.
in any case, majmunče naše malo XD