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Offline Dilmah G

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ooh, I hope my bum's ass of a computer can run this eye-candy. I've got a 64mb card.

64? Jesus Christ, can that thing even run xp? I thought it was a minimum of 128mb for like everything these days

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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In the mission Playing Judas, one cannot target the subsystems of the Lucifer (nor the Eva), which makes locating the docking bay a bit more difficult than it should be.
Any specific reason why one cannot target the subsystems of the Lucifer and the Eva?
Because it doesn't allow one to?
Hmm. Oh, for the love of Olga's crackers... I can confirm this. It would almost seem as if the Lucifer didn't have any subsystems to begin with. Didn't thought of checkign the Eva, though. I have my last exam for this year in 2.5 hours. After that I'll test this issue (and some other non-related issues) more.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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I have a little Problem.
I installed FS2 , downloaded all from the Installer
Whan i play the PTV Isis is invisible ! I can see the engine and the gunframes but not more.
This is very difficult to deacivate or destroy it on the mission you have to stop the Omega-Transport with the Prototypes.
I reinstalled all 3 times - no change.
In the Simulator - where you can look at the ships   this one has no Animation - a few other too.

Whats wrong ?


PS:  I registred me in Mantis but i never had an email from it to activate the acc.
My english isnt very good. Please forgive me :)

 

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HI!!!

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Umm, right...I'm assuming it's the mission with the Omega-Rasputin transfer. Have you tried cycling through the subsystems of the Omega? Default key is S.
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Offline cloneof

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Could someone help me with a minor problem? I have for a few times reinstalled the whole FS 2 retail, source and then the FSO to get to the bottom of this problem. There seems that I have some setting wrong as my HUD is still the normal FS2 3d with it`s small green and red dots to point the enemies, unlike the sweet kick ass things that the screenshots show.

Other then that the interface is as it should be, FS1 style. For now I have seen everything else promised, but the changed HUD :(. Does anyone know what this setting could be that I have screwed earlier in the launcher?

 

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Hi, welcome to the forum. Let's see what we can do for you.

Whan i play the PTV Isis is invisible ! I can see the engine and the gunframes but not more.

That's odd--it sounds like you're missing a texture. Can you take a screenshot please? Also, are you using the regular FS2, FS2 Open, or FS2 Open + Media VPs?

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In the Simulator - where you can look at the ships   this one has no Animation - a few other too.

What animation are you referring to?

There seems that I have some setting wrong as my HUD is still the normal FS2 3d with its small green and red dots to point the enemies, unlike the sweet kick ass things that the screenshots show.

This is actually an unofficial feature, as it hasn't been merged in yet with the main codebase. You'll need to download this file and put it in your FSPort or MediaVPs folder, then play using a Wanderer build of FS Open. Using one of the nightly builds (or any build that doesn't have Wanderer in its name) will crash unless you remove that VP.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2008, 12:14:10 pm by Galemp »
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In the mission Playing Judas, one cannot target the subsystems of the Lucifer (nor the Eva), which makes locating the docking bay a bit more difficult than it should be.

I'll have to follow up on this but my gut tells me it's a hack to get you to scan the entire ship, as in FS1 "Playing Judas," instead of individual subsystems, as in FS2 "Monster in the Mist." By default FS2 won't let you scan capital ships or higher in a single pass, only their individual subsystems.

The reason I have to follow up on this is because we already hacked this in by having copies of the Eva and Lucifer flagged as corvettes. It might be something in the table, or the mission.
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I just got around to downloading these puppies, and since a cursory search of the thread didn't turn anything up...is there any reason you could think of why my HUD is largely invisible in-mission? :nervous:

(This is with both the Port MVPs and 3.6.10 final MVPs on a recent nightly build.)

yeah, i have hud problems too.

See :



Okay, I can confirm that the HUD elements are not displaying for me on the 12/17 nightly build with the 3.6.10 MVPs, with or without the Port MediaVPs.  There's nothing fancy about my command line as far as I know, other than -no_glsl.

I  have to admit I'm baffled here. I have no problems at all and I don't have the faintest idea what could be going wrong.
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Does Turey's installer download the modified campaign files that integrate the Fall of Vasuda Prime cut scene?  Or do I still have to make the modifications manually?

You have to make the modifications yourself, as currently the slots where the cutscene should go are occupied by existing, canonical cutscenes--and you can't play two cutscenes in a row. (The FS2 endgame was an ugly code hack and can't be reproduced.) I have a novel solution to this but it will take some time to implement.
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Offline cloneof

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Thanks for the help, but now I seem to have other problems :/.

I get this error message, sying that the support1 is in a full moment of non inertia and this happens annyoingly and often and after a few times this error message causes the game to crash.

Can anyone help meh  :o?

 

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Make sure you run the 3_6_10r executable, not the 3_6_10d executable. That's for debugging. (Although that null moment of inertia bug will be fixed. :) )

Incidentally, THIS BUILD allows you to use the radar icons AND fixes the shield bug in Act I. I've updated the link in the earlier post.
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I just dled all these enhancements (I think they're working right), but I don't see my "freespace.fc2" file anywhere. Where is it? Right now I've got the Freespace2 update and the Freespace Port... I read just a few posts up that I'd have to create the data/movies folders for my movie so I've done that.

 

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23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline uk_john

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No respect for newbies!

The installation instructions are total crap - they are so brief that they are for peopl that already know how to do it and don't need it! those of us that do need it get bare minimum installation instructions!

No actual file names are used, more files are downloaded that are mentioned in the instructions and I am looking in zips expecting readme's and finding none!

What a way to expand the number of people playing this great game! All you are doing is talking to the same small group of people that have installed previous versions and already know what to do!

I will attempt to make 'educated guesses' as to what file goes where, but with just files in zips rather than folders, and therefore the need to create a folder to put the files into, i am not confident at all!

Given how much work has gone into this over the months and years I am stupified as to why he last 4 yards have been ignored! How many newbies from GOG, or other sites are going to come here and just give up?  I am not sure, based on the total lack of help to new 'customers' - that you even care!

This whole site seems so incestuous, with grognards talking to grognards. As a new FS2 owner, wanting to start out right, I am so sorely disappointed and frustrated.

When you go hoop-la over the next build and are patting yourself on the back for a 'job well done' remember - 'without new blood all fortunes die' - and write installation instruction assuming no knowledge - not huge knowledge!
 

 

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Your frustration is unwarranted.  Nearly everybody here is more than willing to help you out.

In fact, there is a one-stop solution for getting everything you need to run the Port in full SCP-supported glory, right here.  Download the Installer and run it in the same folder you installed FreeSpace 2 into.  Select the Port option and any optional expansion packs.  Then sit back and relax as the installer automatically sets everything up for you.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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No respect for newbies!

The installation instructions are total crap - they are so brief that they are for peopl that already know how to do it and don't need it! those of us that do need it get bare minimum installation instructions!

No actual file names are used, more files are downloaded that are mentioned in the instructions and I am looking in zips expecting readme's and finding none!

What a way to expand the number of people playing this great game! All you are doing is talking to the same small group of people that have installed previous versions and already know what to do!

I will attempt to make 'educated guesses' as to what file goes where, but with just files in zips rather than folders, and therefore the need to create a folder to put the files into, i am not confident at all!

Given how much work has gone into this over the months and years I am stupified as to why he last 4 yards have been ignored! How many newbies from GOG, or other sites are going to come here and just give up?  I am not sure, based on the total lack of help to new 'customers' - that you even care!

This whole site seems so incestuous, with grognards talking to grognards. As a new FS2 owner, wanting to start out right, I am so sorely disappointed and frustrated.

When you go hoop-la over the next build and are patting yourself on the back for a 'job well done' remember - 'without new blood all fortunes die' - and write installation instruction assuming no knowledge - not huge knowledge!
 
Again my heart is filled with joy, when I see that kara wrote his FAQ for nothing.  :rolleyes:

Yes, the installation instructions might be a bit short, but it is partially due to the fact that the installation procedure has been carefully described in The Holy BookTM. If there are people who are still a bit lost with the installation procedure, no one is stopping them from asking for help.

Edit: I'd actually concider the instructions on the first post to be quite sufficient as well. Download, extract to \freespace2\fsport\, select \freespace2\fsport\ with the Launcher, run, select the FS1 campaign and boom; that's it.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2008, 02:55:10 pm by Lobo »
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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I'm sorry you feel that way, John. I can't think of any simpler packaging than 'unzip all these files to this directory' except maybe a dedicated installer, which I included a link to. Lemme go over what I posted:

You may download version 3.1 automatically using Turey's Installer or manually via the links below.

So far so good.

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INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS
Retail FS2: Unzip to your Freespace2 directory, and make a new pilot. To return to the FS2 campaign, move, delete, or rename the extension of fsport3_1.vp. The readme should help answer the most common questions.

If you're using retail FS2 I really can't see how I can make things any clearer. The files in the zips go in your Freespace2 directory. Nowhere else. You don't need to make any folders, or put them anywhere special, and I don't see why you need filenames either when they all go in the same place. It's pretty idiot-proof, and if you do run into problems there's the readme in FSPort Core zip.

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FS2 Open: Unzip to a new 'fsport' directory in your Freespace2 directory, and select it from the Mods tab of the launcher.
If using the FSPort Media VPs, unzip them to a new 'fsport-mediavps' directory in your FreeSpace2 folder. Be sure that you have the 3.6.10 MVPs installed in 'mediavps' and you're using a 3.6.10 build. If you're playing a mod that uses FSPort, add 'fsport-mediavps' to the mod.ini just before 'fsport' in the SecondaryMod line.

This assumes that you already have FS2_Open up and running, and the media VP install instructions are handled in their own thread. If you haven't gotten FS2_Open running I can't help you. There are other instructions devoted to that.

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You must select a Ported campaign in the campaign room such as "The Main FreeSpace Campaign" or "Silent Threat".  Simply launching into the ready room will start the main FreeSpace 2 campaign, which will not work when the Port is active.

This is just a preventative measure, just to help you get started.

So, again, I'm sorry if you're frustrated--I meant these instructions to be really, really simple.

« Last Edit: December 19, 2008, 03:19:44 pm by Galemp »
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ooh, I hope my bum's ass of a computer can run this eye-candy. I've got a 64mb card.

64? Jesus Christ, can that thing even run xp? I thought it was a minimum of 128mb for like everything these days
64MB card, not 64MB of RAM.

I  have to admit I'm baffled here. I have no problems at all and I don't have the faintest idea what could be going wrong.
Would it do anyone any good if one of us ran a debug build and attached the log?

(Also, I think there's some inherent irony in calling us "grognards." :p)

 

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I just got around to downloading these puppies, and since a cursory search of the thread didn't turn anything up...is there any reason you could think of why my HUD is largely invisible in-mission? :nervous:

(This is with both the Port MVPs and 3.6.10 final MVPs on a recent nightly build.)

yeah, i have hud problems too.

See :



Okay, I can confirm that the HUD elements are not displaying for me on the 12/17 nightly build with the 3.6.10 MVPs, with or without the Port MediaVPs.  There's nothing fancy about my command line as far as I know, other than -no_glsl.

I  have to admit I'm baffled here. I have no problems at all and I don't have the faintest idea what could be going wrong.

Hi Galemp. Well, if it's not an assets problem, could it possibly be a code problem ? I see recent checkins were dealing with the HUD. I ought to check to see if  the no_glsl flag is doing something in the meantime.
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