[Tiara]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB


But the Navy has just been talking of mothballing the carriers, very odd.
I demand the Britain buys the Nimitz, as with it being Nuclear powered, in only needs to refuel every FOURTEEN YEARS!

A manned nuclear bomb? If it crashes wouldn't it go radiation on your ass?

[RangerKarl]

Tiara, most carriers and submarines in the US Navy run on nuclear energy. They aren't bombs, although if the reactor does get breached somehow, the pollution would be very bad indeed. At least to sea life.......

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Hehe, that's probably true, and since it has a crew of SIX THOUSAND, that would be quite a problem.

BTW, ever seen that supposed radio transcript where a US carrier group is speaking with a Canadian ship (they think) and demand that is alters course. This goes on for a few minutes, each side demanding that the other changes course. It ends with this;

US navy: We are a US carrier group, We have the USS Nimitz, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers and 4 frigates, we suggest that you change you course to avoid us.

Canadian "fleet": We're a lighthouse. It's your call.

[redsniper]

some sort of 'mech armed with allyourbase missiles:cool:

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Actually here it is, the transcript. I've just found it through a quick google blast.

This is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US navel ship and the Canadian coastguard.
Coastguard: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
Americans:Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the north, to avoid a collision.
C: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees south to avoid a collision.
A: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.
C: Negative. I say again, you will have to divert your course.
A: This is the aircraft carrier US Lincoln, the second largest ship in the United States Atlantic fleet, we are accompanied by three distroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand you change your course 15 degrees north or countermeasures will be undertaken to secure the safety of this ship.
C: We're a lighthouse - Your call

[Tiara]

Just found out that the Dutch navy had a total of 26 different types of submarines this century (all Dutch origin, no borrowed stuff)... Then why the f*ck did we just roll over and play dead during the WWII

And we still have several in use...

Current Active Dutch navy:

Walrus Subs  4  
Potvis sub 1
Mercuur Torpedo ship 1  
Amsterdam Supply ship  1  
Zuiderkruis Supply ship  1  
Rotterdam Amfibic transport  1  
Zeven Provinciën Anti-air defence and command destroyers  4  
Jacob van Heemskerck Air defence destroyers  2
Kortenaer Standard Destroyer  1  
Karel Doorman  Multi-purpose frigates  8  
Alkmaar Minesweepers  12
Aircraft carrier  1

Quite a lot more then I expected

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Actually here it is, the transcript. I've just found it through a quick google blast.

 

well, that would be an interesting thing for a captain to explain.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Tiara


Aircraft carrier  1

 

since when?

[Tiara]

Originally posted by kasperl




since when?

Apparently its a very old model and about to be decommisioned

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Tiara
Apparently its a very old model and about to be decommisioned

still, i never heard about any dutch aircraft carrier.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Is it a Native Dutch one, though? I've never heard of any carriers being built in Holland.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Is it a Native Dutch one, though? I've never heard of any carriers being built in Holland.

me niether, i thought the biggest thing built for the navy here was the "rotterdam"

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by kasperl


me niether, i thought the biggest thing built for the navy here was the "rotterdam"

And what was it, pray? A cruiser of some sort?

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
And what was it, pray? A cruiser of some sort?

no, a transport.

note, i am not really up-to-date on navy's, so i might be wrong.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by kasperl

no, a transport.
 

For transporting what? Other ships?

BTW, is this it?

[Tiara]

Originally posted by kasperl


still, i never heard about any dutch aircraft carrier.

Its very likely you never truly studied history

When the Dutch Navy (Royal Netherlands Navy) is mentioned, few people think of aircraft carriers. In fact four aircraft carriers have flown the Dutch flag - two Merchant Aircraft Carriers, a single escort carrier, and a light fleet carrier.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Tiara


When the Dutch Navy (Royal Netherlands Navy) is mentioned, few people think of aircraft carriers. In fact four aircraft carriers have flown the Dutch flag - two Merchant Aircraft Carriers, a single escort carrier, and a light fleet carrier.

That is truly odd. It's not even as though you have that much coastline (at home, anyway)

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Tiara



Its very likely you never truly studied history

When the Dutch Navy (Royal Netherlands Navy) is mentioned, few people think of aircraft carriers. In fact four aircraft carriers have flown the Dutch flag - two Merchant Aircraft Carriers, a single escort carrier, and a light fleet carrier.

nope, i didn'treally have the change.

do you have a link to a site?

i'm currently looking at www.marine.nl, but i can't find anything on a carrier.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB




That is truly odd. It's not even as though you have that much coastline (at home, anyway)

I didn't say they were all at the same time. Also you must remember that Holland controlled Indonesia for some time. And they have plenty of coastline

Also, the Zeven Provincieën is the biggest.

[Mr Carrot]

The dutch needed a fleet to "protect" their colonies in the Dutch East Indies etc. pre WWII and for a short spell after it. The numerous carriers and submarines were for ASW during the cold war as the RN and the RDN(?) had to make up France's ASW commitement as well as their own.