[Grizzly]

http://yuxiyou.net/open/

(This is probably already well known)

[Scotty]

Seeing as I'm stuck in an airport and had to pay $7 for wifi, I am very well aware that the internet is not free.

Relation to topic not guaranteed.

[Flipside]

There's never been such a thing as a Free Press though, not ever. In the UK we are seeing more and more 'super-injunctions', where the papers are forbidden from even reporting the existence of certain news, it's worrying and a little bit scary. What's even more scary is the way these injunctions are being used, it's not, for example, to protect the accused in a so-far unproven rape allegation or anything like that, it's to protect the integrity of companies that have been committing illegal practices and don't want to damage public opinion.

[karajorma]

AFAIK the only way the UK censors the internet is to block access to known child porn sites. If there is something other than that which is blocked I'd be interested in hearing about it. If that IS the only way it is blocked I find it a little disingenuous to lump that under "Censoring to maintain traditional social values"

[Kolgena]

Heh. China's censorship machine is actually really impressive. Make a blog post with some key words in them, and your site goes down within 10 minutes. Supposedly they have whole teams of people just sitting on computers trawling and hacking the **** out of anyone who dissents. Then they IP trace you and come screw you over in RL if what you did is really bad.

(The above is all hearsay, largely through the net though. I figure it's not far from true though.)

[Flipside]

AFAIK the only way the UK censors the internet is to block access to known child porn sites. If there is something other than that which is blocked I'd be interested in hearing about it. If that IS the only way it is blocked I find it a little disingenuous to lump that under "Censoring to maintain traditional social values"

That and a few extremist websites is pretty much the limit as far as I'm aware for the UK, but I have heard of plans to expand that, not sure what came of them though, I don't think they got beyond the thinktank stage.

[headdie]

AFAIK the only way the UK censors the internet is to block access to known child porn sites. If there is something other than that which is blocked I'd be interested in hearing about it. If that IS the only way it is blocked I find it a little disingenuous to lump that under "Censoring to maintain traditional social values"

I heard something about it, i think it is/was supposed to be part of some joint effort wit the US but it has been a good while since i heard anything
That and a few extremist websites is pretty much the limit as far as I'm aware for the UK, but I have heard of plans to expand that, not sure what came of them though, I don't think they got beyond the thinktank stage.

[Bobboau]

don't they try to block 4chan?

[StarSlayer]

There was not a No option 

[Flipside]

don't they try to block 4chan?

Not that I'm aware of, it they are then they aren't doing a very good job of it, at least.

[Rodo]

Of course it ain't free, dammit... I wish it was.

[Mikes]

Read a newspaper article with the title "Facebook" ain't free recently...  that detailed how ever new Facebook user basically is in "debt" by over 100.00$ the moment they sign up.

But no worries... you don t have to "pay" - Facebook simply "get" the momey by selling your information at the first opportunity... and then continue to make profitz!



And while it is of course quite obvious that a lot of companies sell private information for profit... I was a bit shocked at the extent of the issue that the article described.


Course.... that's a different kind of "free"...  but still

[Nemesis6]

There's never been such a thing as a Free Press though, not ever. In the UK we are seeing more and more 'super-injunctions', where the papers are forbidden from even reporting the existence of certain news, it's worrying and a little bit scary. What's even more scary is the way these injunctions are being used, it's not, for example, to protect the accused in a so-far unproven rape allegation or anything like that, it's to protect the integrity of companies that have been committing illegal practices and don't want to damage public opinion.

You give an example right now, mister! I's curious, you see.

[Satellight]

Best proof Internet is not free : clicking on the "yes for a free Internet" button at the bottom of the page don't do anything, at least for me 

[BloodEagle]

AFAIK the only way the UK censors the internet is to block access to known child porn sites. If there is something other than that which is blocked I'd be interested in hearing about it. If that IS the only way it is blocked I find it a little disingenuous to lump that under "Censoring to maintain traditional social values"

Wait.  They have a list of CP sites?

....

That explains so much. 

[Flipside]

There's never been such a thing as a Free Press though, not ever. In the UK we are seeing more and more 'super-injunctions', where the papers are forbidden from even reporting the existence of certain news, it's worrying and a little bit scary. What's even more scary is the way these injunctions are being used, it's not, for example, to protect the accused in a so-far unproven rape allegation or anything like that, it's to protect the integrity of companies that have been committing illegal practices and don't want to damage public opinion.

You give an example right now, mister! I's curious, you see.

Well, there's an interesting article on it in the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/13/super-injunctions-guardian-carter-ruck

This pretty well sums up the problem with them at the moment.

[Klaustrophobia]

i wouldn't be surprised if there's more censoring than you are aware of going on.

[S-99]

Use different dns servers or start getting used to typing in ip addresses instead of www.wtfever.com.

[Klaustrophobia]

that's not going to help when IP blocking is going on.

[S-99]

Tru'dat, but it's the easiest form of censoring everyone's using right now. That and most people are too dumb to get past an ever shrinking dns address list.

When ip blocking, hope to god you can find a proxy in your ip and dns censored area of living. The next thing is why is internet censoring resting mostly on making dns address lists smaller? Why block ip's and make dns address lists smaller when you could just do one or the other? Ip blocking in the end definitely does say "no one's getting there no matter what!".