[QuantumDelta]

Just a warning for anyone who preordered with Game or Gamestation.
You have probably recieved an email by now telling you your preorder was cancelled, since then, Zaavi and TheHut, as well as Play have sold out of PC-collectors edition ME3.
If you want to preorder anywhere, at the moment, you can only find it at Amazon.
I don't imagine amazon's stock will last much longer either...

Game's stock price has dropped 17% or so since the announcement, and it really does look like they're going under.

[Dragon]

Once it's out, it'll most likely be on Steam after a short while.
It's the simplest way to get it, IMHO (plus, you might avoid Origin that way).

[QuantumDelta]

I wants my collectors edition stuff

[Dragon]

Ah, right, if you're a big fan, you could also buy a boxed version (won't save you from Origin though).

[QuantumDelta]

Why do I need 'saving' from origin?
You don't think I've been using it for the best release of last year?
Or the ME3 Demo?

[Dragon]

Personally, I don't thrust it. EA has a history of screwing things up with their DRM, so I'm not eager to install their distribution system, especially that Steam is basically the same, but better.

[MatthTheGeek]

I don't thrust it either. That could damage my comp. Litterally.

In all seriousness, if given the choice, I'll take it on Steam. If not, it's not just the fact it's on Origin that will prevent me from buying it if I want to buy it.

[Dragon]

I think it'll be on Steam. All major releases nowdays are, except for Crysis 2 (which also was there, until EA released DLCs which broke Steam rules).

[The E]

It will not be on Steam for the foreseeable future, given that ME3 will likely use Origin for much of its multiplayer component (if you have played the demo, you will have noticed that matchmaking is mediated via Origin, much like matchmaking in games like TF2 or Space Marine is mediated via Steam). As such, making the game available on Steam would involve either replacing the Origin hooks with Steam hooks (which will create a wall between the people on Origin and the ones on Steam), or adding them in, leading to the same cluster**** that games like Batman: Arkham City are already experiencing (because you'd have to deal with two different overlays, one for Origin, one for Steam).

Last but not least, EA withdrew from Steam for the express purpose of cutting out as many middlemen as possible. Why would they go back now?

[Dragon]

Money?
Steam generates a lot of revenue. It's widely used, frequently holds attractive sales and has a pretty efficient advertising methods, so it can net EA a lot of cash. As for a clusterfrack with multiplayer, I doubt EA would care about that one (neither will I, as I play mostly for SP). That's the player's problem, not EA's (and they had already shown how much they care about players). Of course, it indeed might not be released on Steam. In that case, I'll either turn to piracy or tell COMODO to lock Origin down in sandbox mode (and it it'll refuse to work like that, it'll pirate it anyway). One thing is certain. I'm not paying a full price for it and let it screw my computer up.

[The E]

Money?
Steam generates a lot of revenue.

For Valve, yes.

It's widely used, frequently holds attractive sales and has a pretty efficient advertising methods, so it can net EA a lot of cash.

Depending on who sets the timetable for the sales, and who eats the price differences. For example, if Amazon puts a book on sale, Amazon will eat the losses incurred when they are reducing the price, I do not know how Valve handles these things.

As for a clusterfrack with multiplayer, I doubt EA would care about that one (neither will I, as I play mostly for SP). That's the player's problem, not EA's (and they had already shown how much they care about players).

And this is where it becomes clear that you really have no clue whatsoever. The reason EA told Bioware to include a multiplayer component was to increase ME3's longevity, and to allow the addition of multiplayer-centric DLC to the portfolio of choices available. So yeah, EA does care. A lot.

Of course, it indeed might not be released on Steam. In that case, I'll either turn to piracy or tell COMODO to lock Origin down in sandbox mode (and it it'll refuse to work like that, it'll pirate it anyway). One thing is certain. I'm not paying a full price for it and let it screw my computer up.

Yes, because that has happened with Origin so many times. Besides, you let Steam run wild on your system, but Origin is evil and needs to sandboxed? weird set of priorities you have there.

[MatthTheGeek]

The whole "omg Origin is da EVILAH" is getting old really. Like I said, if given a choice I'd take Steam over Origin, but that didn't prevent me from installing Origin to play the ME3 demo.

[Davros]

Do I really want to have to rely on e.a to run a server so I can play my game ?

Previously Shut Down Online Services for e.a games

 Arena Football™ for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 Arena Football™: Road to Glory for PlayStation 2
 Armies of Exigo™ for PC
 Army of Two™ for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 Army of Two™ Demo for Xbox 360
 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat™ for Xbox and Xbox 360
 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat™ Demo for Xbox 360
 Battlefield 2142™ Demo for PC
 Burnout™ Revenge for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 Burnout™ Dominator for PlayStation Portable
 Burnout™ 3: Takedown ™ for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 Def Jam® for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 EA SPORTS™ Fantasy Football 09 for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3
 EA SPORTS™ FIFA Manager 10 for PC
 EA SPORTS™ Fight Night Round 2 for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 EA SPORTS™ Fight Night Round 3 for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable and Xbox
 EA SPORTS™ MMA (Live Broadcast Feature only) for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 Facebreaker™ for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3
 FIFA Soccer 2005 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 FIFA 06 for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 FIFA 07 for PC, PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 2, Xbox and Xbox 360
 FIFA 08 for PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Wii and PC
 FIFA 09 for PC, PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Wii
 FIFA 09 Ultimate Team for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 FIFA 10 for PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 FIFA 10 Ultimate Team for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 FIFA Street 3 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 The Godfather™ The Game for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 GoldenEye: Rogue Agent™ for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 LITTLEST PET SHOP Online for PC
 The Lord of the Rings™, The Battle for Middle-earth™ for PC
 The Lord of the Rings™, The Battle for Middle-earth™ II for PC and Xbox 360
 The Lord of the Rings™, The Battle for Middle-earth™ II, The Rise of the Witch-king™ for PC and Xbox 360
 The Lord of the Rings: Conquest™ for PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 MVP Baseball™ 2005 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 MVP™ 07 NCAA® Baseball for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 Madden NFL 05 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 Madden NFL 06 for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 Madden NFL 07 for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 Madden NFL 08 for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, PlayStation Portable, Wii, Xbox and Xbox 360
 Madden NFL 09 for PlayStation Portable (all regions), PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Wii and Xbox
 Madden NFL 10 for PlayStation Portable (all regions), PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Wii
 Marvel Nemesis™: Rise of the Imperfects™ for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 Medal of Honor Airborne™ for PlayStation Portable
 Medal of Honor Heroes™ 2 for PlayStation Portable and Wii
 Medal of Honor Pacific Assault™ for PC
 Medal of Honor™ Rising Sun for PlayStation 2
 Mercenaries 2: World in Flames™ for PC
 MySims™ for PC
 NASCAR® 05: Chase for the Cup™ for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NASCAR® 06: Total Team Control for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NASCAR® 07 for PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Xbox and Xbox 360
 NASCAR® 08 for PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NASCAR® 09 for PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NBA LIVE 05 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NBA LIVE 06 for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 NBA LIVE 07 for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 NBA LIVE 08 for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable and Wii
 NBA LIVE 09 for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Wii
 NBA Street (2007) for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NBA Street V3 for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NCAA® Basketball 08 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NCAA® Basketball 09 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NCAA® Basketball 10 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NCAA® Football 05 for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NCAA® Football 06 for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NCAA® Football 07 for Xbox 360, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable and Xbox
 NCAA® Football 08 forPlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NCAA® Football 09 for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 2
 NCAA® Football 10 for PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NCAA® March Madness 06 for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NCAA® March Madness™ 2005 for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NCAA® March Madness® 07 for PlayStation 2, Xbox and Xbox 360
 Need for Speed™ Carbon for PlayStation Portable
 Need for Speed™ Most Wanted for PC, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 Need for Speed™ ProStreet for PC and PlayStation Portable
 Need for Speed™ Undercover for PlayStation Portable
 Need for Speed™ Underground for PlayStation 2
 Need for Speed™ Underground 2 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NFL Head Coach 09 for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NFL STREET 2: Unleashed for PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NFL STREET 3 for PlayStation 2
 NFL Tour for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NHL® 2005 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NHL® 06 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 NHL® 07 for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 NHL® 08 for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation 2 and PC
 NHL® 09 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 NHL® 10 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 Pet Society™ Vacation for iPhone
 The Simpsons™ Game for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 SimSocial on Facebook
 The Sims Carnival
 SKATE™ for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 05 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 06 for PC, PlayStation 2, Xbox and Xbox 360
 Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 07 for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 08 for PC, PlayStation 2 PlayStation 3, PlayStation Portable and Xbox 360
 Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 09 for PlayStation 3, Wii and Xbox 360
 Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 10 for PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Wii
 Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 11 Demo for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 TimeSplitters 3: Future Perfect™ for Xbox and PlayStation 2
 Total Club Manager 06 for PlayStation 2
 UEFA Champions League™ 2004-2005 for PC, PlayStation 2 and Xbox
 UEFA Champions League™ 2006-2007 for PlayStation 2 and PlayStation Portable
 UEFA Champions League™ 07 for PC and Xbox 360
 UEFA EURO 2008™ for PC PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
 2006 FIFA World Cup™ for PC, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable, Xbox and Xbox 360
 2010 FIFA World Cup™ South Africa for PC, PlayStation 3, PlayStation Portable, Xbox 360 and Wii
 2010 FIFA World Cup™ South Africa Demo for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360

[The E]

So EA shuts down online services for games that are no longer profitable. This is news?

[Fury]

I don't thrust it either. That could damage my comp. Litterally.

Snarky remark about a typo which includes a typo. Way to go.

The whole "omg Origin is da EVILAH" is getting old really. Like I said, if given a choice I'd take Steam over Origin, but that didn't prevent me from installing Origin to play the ME3 demo.

I know right. Once a bandwagon is moving, it just keeps moving like a duracell bunny and every other person jumps on.

[Klaustrophobia]

or maybe we have our own reasons for not wanting to install origin that were not influenced by the "bandwagon"

[newman]

Meh, you've seen one evil gaming distribution system, you've seen them all. I prefer playing ME3 over obsessing which is worse, Steam or Origin. Every company under the sun has the same agenda - getting money out of your pocket and into their bank accounts. You can think some of them are different while they're laughing all the way to the bank - the only real difference is some are more successful at getting your money than others. I don't see enough differences between Steam and Origin to warrant not installing Origin when you're already on Steam. You already made the biggest decision, which was to use online gaming services. I don't see how Origin is the Source of All Evil. It probably just stems from the fact it's considered hip to hate EA these days. Which isn't without it's reasons, but there's a sane limit to obsessing over it.

[MatthTheGeek]

I don't thrust it either. That could damage my comp. Litterally.

Snarky remark about a typo which includes a typo. Way to go.

Thank you Lt. Commander Obvious, that was the very point

[Colonol Dekker]

Do I really want to have to rely on e.a to run a server so I can play my game ?

Previously Shut Down Online Services for e.a games

LITTLEST PET SHOP Online for PC

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..................!

[QuantumDelta]

I like how this is now a discussion about origin when the real news item here is that a major game retailer is probably going under