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Offline Taristin

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*bump*

How goes this? :D  I'm about to start a Gank fan club.
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Offline Gank

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Havent got much done on anything lately, might get it finished at the weekend, depending on how much I drink.

Seketh, cheers for the feedback.

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by Nico
I also like those white ( well, the concepts are black and white... ) big things that are used instead of your plain gun barrels. they look like radiation emiters of some sort.
So, anybody's fine with that? :p


Use the old triangular openings instead of the "radiation emitters" in the arms, make them guns, and scrap missiles entirely, and it would kick serious ****ing ass.
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Offline Taristin

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Nah. That's too much a "Terran Alien" way of thinking. If Nico were to do it the way he says, it'd be awesome.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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But there's no obvious place for the gun blasts to come out, which is kind of confusing when such a ship fires.
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Offline Nico

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"Nico's thinking, and therefore rules, about the shivan ship designs ( I'm gonna repeat myself, I know )":

1) When the Ancients talk about the shivans, they're telling us about black ships. When I look at the ingame ships, I see grey and red ships. And even more red if you take the inferno ships.
-> I'd make them almost black, with a few, but very bright red parts, and light grey parts for the weapons ( as explained a couple points down )

2) I hate the normal thrusters, they look too terran. The red bricks on the FS1 ships were perfect to break that feeling. Any shivan ship I'd do would have NO thruster at all, but red bricks instead ( check my mod site in my sig, the hydra is faulty, the harpy and the chimera, tho, are that way )

3) weapons: I guess missile racks can't be helped, but primaries, no, no. No gun barrels, bad, bad! Take the manticore concept pic, I'd always do that way, now. The large, bright emitter thinguy. Pb is, that should come with custom weapon effects: I don't picture the usual laser bolt, but more something looking like a shockwave emited from those things. I have a clear picture of that in my mind actually, and I think it looks cool.

4) organic looking ships: some concept pics show the shivan ships being clearly technological, very anime'ish ( especially FS1 concepts ), but the FS2 ones have undergone a severe organic cure ( see the ravana or the sathanas concept pics ). Blargh, that sucks. Organic goes to vasudans, it fits well their style. Shivans are like cold, feelingless killing machines. What does that makes you think about? Robots, yeah. Shivans ships must look like high technology incarnated.

5) The dreaded spikes. Modders have a thing for shivans ships and spikes. On a basis, shivans ships have 4 large claws, not more. And that's NOT a general trait: the mara has them, the sathanas have them. No FS1 shivan ships have that. Half the FS2 ships don't either. They usually have large, squarish fins.
Spikes are bad, plus spikes leads to think spider, organic ( see point above ).

6) Many shivan ships have that red triangle thinguy on the front ( mara ), or something alike. It's not mandatory ( FS1 fighters don't have those, but the capships do ), but given the evolution in FS2, I think it's a good thing to have those. That's an original shape that screams "shivan" to me.

7) assymetry: many shivans ships are assymetrical, but as many are not. In my books, both are fine.

8) shivan ships look mean, even crappy ones like the nephilim. That's mandatory :p

9) SCP wise, I think high spec on shivan ships should work fine ( spec on black ships -> high contrast, gives character to the ship, and allows to see details that people would claim being hidden by the very dark color scheme )

Voila, that's all, I don't ask anybody to follow that, I'm just stating what you have to expect from me if I were to do another shivan ship.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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shivan ships look mean, even crappy ones like the nephilim. That's mandatory


The Nephilim is anything but crappy if you're using FS1 ships and weapons.
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16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
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16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Nico

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You sure you're not mistaking with the seraphim? you know, the nephilim, the first ship you encounter, along with a scorpion. The one that lasts exactly 2.5 seconds at the end of the campaign when you're flying an herc.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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The Nephilim and Seraphim are identical save their size and number of gun mounts (the Seraphim has 11 mounts in three banks instead of 7 in one bank and is quite a bit larger).

The crappy bomber is the Shaitan, with three gun mounts and a tiny bomb bay. Jesus Christ, it was almost as bad as the Anubis.
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16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
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16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Flaser

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About the gun things: the Dragon had visible gun barrels, but it was still one of the most "Shivan" ships IMHO.

As for the techo thing: watch some more anime, or look at the Matrix trilogy - it is possible to make something organic AND techno-menancing. - Though you should be careful with curves.
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Offline Taristin

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I wish Nico would stop talking about how the Shivan ships should be, and actually make them in his vision. ;) :D
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
The Nephilim and Seraphim are identical save their size and number of gun mounts (the Seraphim has 11 mounts in three banks instead of 7 in one bank and is quite a bit larger).

The crappy bomber is the Shaitan, with three gun mounts and a tiny bomb bay. Jesus Christ, it was almost as bad as the Anubis.


Hargh, ah yes, you're right, I meant shaitan :nervous:
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Flaser
As for the techo thing: watch some more anime


:lol:
telling that to me :D
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Offline Charismatic

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I cant see the picture(s), and wheres the link?
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Offline Taristin

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Holy Thread Necromancy batman!




And :lol: @ j00

Bumping a year old thread to complain about the lack of pictures.  People have limited webspace, y'tard :p
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Offline Charismatic

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Hehe wanted to see if anyone would notice.:nervous:
But the link thing is serious, i want new polys'. Hehe.
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Offline redmenace

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I have emailed Gank. I hope he still has this lying around. Did anyone ever get this to texture?
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Offline Janos

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Thread Necromancy Extravaganza, October-November 2005
lol wtf

 

Offline FireCrack

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My thaughts about she shivans

1:Trinagles, shivans use triangles alot in their designs, things aranged in threes also.

2: Variety, my major qualm with nico's post as well as my first point (yeah, i'm a hypocrite) Shivan ships come in all sorts of shapes and designs etc, some are boxy like the scorpion, others are smooth and flwoing like the mara, some have spikes, some dont, etc... for me as long as you can tell it's shivan beyond a reasonable doubt, and it doesnt look like crap, it's good.

actualy, mabye not.
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Offline vyper

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My thaughts about she shivans



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