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Title: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 07, 2007, 06:40:20 pm
Hi, there, guys.

I've installed fsport 3.0.4 and found out a possible issue, unless I've mistaken something of course :P
When I reached to the Advanced Training #2, the interceptor missile is not shown in the HUD. Of course, I can't fire it or anything. Further more, after checking later missions, also the stilleto is missing too.

Here's the file list I got:
(All the files  came from the FSO installer)
mod.ini
settings.ini
fsport3_0_4.vp
fsport-fs1-training.vp
fsport-glow.vp
fsport-hi_res.vp
fsport-missions.vp
fsport-shine.vp
sparky_hi_fs1.vp
stu_fs1.vp
tango_fs1.vp
warble_fs1.vp

Would it be possible that a table is wrong or something?
I may have missed some thread in the forum :P

Thanks!

Regards,
Mr. Duckman
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Goober5000 on February 07, 2007, 07:23:38 pm
Did you switch mods partway through the campaign?  Like activating or deactivating the mediavps?
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: neoterran on February 07, 2007, 07:27:19 pm
new pilot file time
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 07, 2007, 07:30:15 pm
No, Goob. But mod.ini mentions mediavps.
Is it ok to comment that line? I wasn't sure if that would break something either :\
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 07, 2007, 07:32:12 pm
I see it.
C:\Games\FS2Open369\fs2_open_3_6_9.exe -mod fsport,mediavps -spec -glow -env -jpgtga -mipmap -nomovies -fps -stats

seems it does add it in the -mod param.  :confused:
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 07, 2007, 07:41:43 pm
Odd.
I left mod.ini as follows:

[launcher]

[multimod]
primarylist  = ;
secondrylist = ;

[settings]


Now, when I try the Advanced Training #2 mission via the missions simulator the game gives me MX-50 instead of the Interceptors  :confused:
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 07, 2007, 08:04:05 pm
If it helps, I'm uploading my player files. :)

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Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: neoterran on February 07, 2007, 08:08:43 pm
that's just silly. just make a new pilot file, it probably got corrupted. What, are you NOT going to play with the mediavps to fix this ? that's not a fix !
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 08, 2007, 04:48:25 am
Tried that. Didn't work. And yes, I've tried with and without the mediavps.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 08, 2007, 05:48:23 am
could it be this?

btm-05.fs2 has the following definition for Alpha 1:
Code: [Select]
+Weaponry Pool: (
"ML-16 Laser" 2
"Interceptor#Weak" 80
)

And the weapons.tbl shows Interceptor#Weak with $Flag () (empty), instead of having ("player allowed")

Code: [Select]
; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
$Name: Interceptor#Weak
$Model File: Interceptor.pof
$Mass: 15.0
$Velocity: 250.0
$Fire Wait: 3.0
$Damage: 60 ;; damage applied when within inner radius
$Blast Force: 60.0
$Inner Radius: 0.0 ;; radius at which damage is full (0 for impact only)
$Outer Radius: 0.0 ;; max radius for attenuated damage
$Shockwave Speed: 0 ;; velocity of shockwave.  0 for none.
$Armor Factor: 1.0
$Shield Factor: 0.8
$Subsystem Factor: 0.5
$Lifetime: 5.0
$Energy Consumed: 0.0 ;; Energy used when fired
$Cargo Size: 2.66 ;; Amount of space taken up in weapon cargo
$Homing: YES
;; the following indented fields are only required when $Homing is YES
+Type: ASPECT ;; Legal: HEAT, ASPECT
+Turn Time: 1.0
+Min Lock Time: 2.0 ;; Minimum lock time (in seconds)
+Lock Pixels/Sec: 70 ;; Pixels moved per sec while locking
+Catch-up Pixels/Sec:100 ;; Pixels moved per sec while catching up
+Catch-up Penalty: 30 ;; Extra pixels to move after catching up
$LaunchSnd: 91 ;; The sound it makes when fired
$ImpactSnd: 88 ;; The sound it makes when it hits something
$FlyBySnd: -1
$Rearm Rate: 2.0 ;; number of missiles/sec that are rearmed
$Flags: ()
$Trail: ;; Trail cannot be set if Exhaust is set
+Start Width: 0.25 ;; Width of trail nearest missile
+End Width: 0.5 ;; Width of trail before it "evaporates"
+Start Alpha: 1.0
+End Alpha: 0.0
+Max Life: 0.7 ;; how many seconds before trail disappears
+Bitmap: MissileTrail02 ;; Bitmap used to draw trail
$Icon: icon_interceptor
$Anim: interceptor
$Impact Explosion: ExpMissileHit1
$Impact Explosion Radius: 7.0
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Goober5000 on February 08, 2007, 08:24:08 am
If that were the only thing wrong, more people would have reported it.

Try editing the table file.  I don't think that will work, but if it does, I'll make a note of it.

If all else fails, I would exit the game, create a new pilot, and start the campaign over.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: ShivanSpS on February 08, 2007, 08:49:06 am
Interceptor#Weak shouldt be having the "player allowed", because this is not a player missile... this missile is 100% exclusive for AI use... i have no idea of why that mission set the interceptorweak missile to player use.

2 days ago i finish FSport again... without problems.

Just have a diferent pilot for earch mod, and only create pilots fron the main screen, not from the barracks.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 08, 2007, 07:18:32 pm
If that were the only thing wrong, more people would have reported it.

Try editing the table file.  I don't think that will work, but if it does, I'll make a note of it.

If all else fails, I would exit the game, create a new pilot, and start the campaign over.
Yup. First thing I tried. If I wasn't wrong, I extracted the table, edited and placed it in fsport\data\tables.
And, yeah, didn't work.

For ShivanSpS, if Interceptor#Weak is not for players, why is it assigned to Alpha 1?

Code: [Select]
$Starting Shipname: alpha 1
$Ship Choices: (
"GTF Ulysses" 5
"GTF Apollo" 5
"GTF Valkyrie" 5
"GTF Hercules" 5
"GTB Athena" 5
"GTB Medusa" 5
"GTB Ursa" 5
)

+Weaponry Pool: (
"ML-16 Laser" 2
"Interceptor#Weak" 80
)

#Objects ;! 6 total

$Name: alpha 1 ;! Object #0
$Class: GTF Apollo
$Team: Friendly
$Location: 88.581749, 0.000014, 7.793905
$Orientation:
1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000,
0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000,
0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
$IFF: IFF 1
$AI Behavior: None
$Cargo 1:  XSTR("Nothing", -1)
+Initial Hull: 100
+Subsystem: Pilot
+Primary Banks: ( "ML-16 Laser" "ML-16 Laser" )
+Secondary Banks: ( "Interceptor#Weak" "Interceptor#Weak" )
$Arrival Location: Hyperspace
$Arrival Cue: ( false )
$Departure Location: Hyperspace
$Departure Cue: ( false )
$Determination: 10
+Flags: ( "cargo-known" "player-start" )
+Respawn priority: 0
+Group: 0
+Score: 12

Am going to try editing the mission file and see what happens.

Thanks for the help so far y'all! :)
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 08, 2007, 07:43:07 pm
I replaced Interceptor#Weak to Interceptor in the mission file (btm05.fs2) and worked wonders :)
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on February 08, 2007, 08:54:44 pm
I went a little deeper and took a look at the Retail's FSM file. It specifies Interceptor#Weak for Alpha 1 so now I don't quite understand what the fook goes wrong with this.

I've created and re-created several (3) players and all of them came with empty secondary weapons with the fsport vp files.

In any case, am posting the edited mission file here should anyone want/need it. :)



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Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: morden5 on March 06, 2007, 05:13:36 pm
Hello!

I encountered the same problem. I just found out about and did a fresh and complete install of FSO (Online Installer) this weekend. I want to get into the Freespace universe chronologically, so playing FSPort first seems like the logical thing to do. I configured everything according to the threads here, created a pilot in the start screen (first and only pilot), selected the FSPort campaign and started playing.

Everything was fine up until I reached Advanced Training 2, where I am being briefed about the interceptor missile, but in the mission my secondary weapon slot is empty. Interceptor#weak is being shown in the weapons room, but doesn't appear in the mission.

I tried a new pilot as Goober5000 suggested - no luck.
I tried editing the mission file like mrduckman suggested and also tried the file he uploaded. But no matter where I put the changed file: /Freespace2, /Freespace2/data, /Freespace2/data/missions, /Freespace2/fsport, /Freespace2/fsport/data, /Freespace2/fsport/data/missions ... it doesn't have any effect.

I'm really running out of ideas here, any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on March 06, 2007, 05:45:47 pm
well, I gave up on the training missions, so just skip it. later on you'd be able to use it. :\
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Goober5000 on March 06, 2007, 06:41:21 pm
Taylor and I have determined that this is a SCP bug, not a FSPort bug.  We're still deciding on the fix.  In the meantime, you can probably just skip the mission.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: morden5 on March 06, 2007, 07:13:46 pm
Thanks for the quick replies! I'll guess I'll just skip the mission then. I hope you'll find a reasonable fix for this issue in the future, cheers...  :yes:
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: mrduckman on March 07, 2007, 10:45:33 am
Well, well, well.... I wasn't so daft after all, eh?

Denny Crane


:DDD
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: TrenchardsLoveSock on April 02, 2007, 04:46:10 pm
Well, well, well.... I wasn't so daft after all, eh?

Denny Crane


:DDD

Nope, happening to me too :sigh:
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Captain Destine on April 15, 2007, 09:37:40 am
Greetings !

Taylor and I have determined that this is a SCP bug, not a FSPort bug.  We're still deciding on the fix.  In the meantime, you can probably just skip the mission.

Well, the fact is that even when I skip the training, the interceptor is still missing in the following mission.... :(
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Goober5000 on April 15, 2007, 09:39:07 am
The Interceptor isn't supposed to be in the following mission.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Captain Destine on April 15, 2007, 09:44:42 am
The Interceptor isn't supposed to be in the following mission.

Oh dear... NOW I feel stupid. (thanks for the helluva fast answer, though :eek2: )
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: jr2 on April 15, 2007, 01:38:08 pm
Heh, heh....
All batteries... target Captain Destine... Open fire!

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Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Snail on April 15, 2007, 02:19:48 pm
Oh dear... NOW I feel stupid. (thanks for the helluva fast answer, though :eek2: )

37 seconds!
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Dysko on April 15, 2007, 02:32:22 pm
Actually, 87 seconds :p
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Snail on April 15, 2007, 02:33:09 pm
STFU!
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Captain Destine on April 16, 2007, 12:17:01 pm
I played the original Freespace 1 just for the comparison...  :eek: My eyes, my eyes !
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Goober5000 on April 16, 2007, 12:19:35 pm
I played the original Freespace 1 just for the comparison...  :eek: My eyes, my eyes !
*smack* Don't talk that way about FS1 -- or any older game for that matter.  Good graphics do not make a good game, and bad graphics do not make a bad game.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Captain Destine on April 16, 2007, 12:21:40 pm
I played the original Freespace 1 just for the comparison...  :eek: My eyes, my eyes !
*smack* Don't talk that way about FS1 -- or any older game for that matter.  Good graphics do not make a good game, and bad graphics do not make a bad game.

Hey, I'm the first one to say that when friends of mine tell me that System Shock 2, or further in the past, amiga games, must be crappy just because they don't look "good".  I was just humorously referring to the changes between the original and the port... Don't think I'm a stupid gamer who think that beautiful game equals good game. Please ?  :(
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Snail on April 16, 2007, 12:31:43 pm
I still like the FS1 nebs. They're nostalgic (and easier to create :P)
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: jr2 on April 16, 2007, 09:17:25 pm
I would think you could create them yourself and still use them, correct?
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Goober5000 on April 16, 2007, 09:37:45 pm
Don't think I'm a stupid gamer who think that beautiful game equals good game. Please ?  :(
K.  It's good that you're not.  But you have to admit that that "my eyes!" comment was a pretty stupid-gamer thing to say. :)
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Mongoose on April 16, 2007, 11:08:36 pm
Not necessarily.  I'm as big a fan of older games as anyone, and I played FS1 for a few years, but when you go from shinemapped 1024x768 to that 640x480, there is a bit of a subconscious "Yikes!", if only for a moment.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Captain Destine on April 17, 2007, 06:18:10 am
But you have to admit that that "my eyes!" comment was a pretty stupid-gamer thing to say. :)

Like I said it was on humourous purpose...  It looked more real :shaking:


(may I say I play in 800x600 just because the HUD looks more like the original ? Would that save me ?)
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Snail on April 17, 2007, 03:43:00 pm
The only reason I play in 800x600 is on my old system...
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Captain Destine on April 17, 2007, 04:15:29 pm
I've got what I think is a big system (for the french standards, tough... when it comes to hardware we are almost one year late in comparison with you.) But I really don't like too small HUD like the high-res ones.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Havner on December 02, 2007, 02:11:35 pm
Taylor and I have determined that this is a SCP bug, not a FSPort bug.  We're still deciding on the fix.  In the meantime, you can probably just skip the mission.

Any news on this? It still exists on 3.6.9 branch.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 02, 2007, 02:23:02 pm
It does but a fixed version of the mission is available from Useful Stuff (link in my sig). Follow the instructions on the page.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Havner on December 02, 2007, 02:55:21 pm
I know about mission fix but was wondering if the proper fix will hit the cvs one day as it might be forgotten.

But thanks for the link, there are few things I've been looking for lately :-)
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 02, 2007, 03:03:19 pm
I know. Back in the days I had to search the LS Nebulae and many other things with cats and dogs and Aragorn. Then, I said to myself: "Steve, I mean Al, I mean whatever. You should stick this stuff to your webspace so that you and others could slightly easily find them".
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on June 19, 2008, 07:51:23 am
Yes, I know I'm necroing this. But it's still not fixed, and I think it's pretty annoying.
Lobo, the "useful stuff" in your sig has gone?

Anyone, please help.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 19, 2008, 08:07:34 am
Lobo, the "useful stuff" in your sig has gone?
Yah. It doesn't have enough sexy to compete with FreeSpaceMods and such. Hang on a sec, I'll check if I still have the mission somewhere and upload it to FreeSpaceMods.

Edit: Curious. I seem to have lost it.  :nervous:

For now, just skip it. It's not even that interesting as a mission.
Title: Re: Interceptor Missile Missing?
Post by: Havner on June 19, 2008, 09:11:07 am
http://vega.livecd.pl/~havner/fso/Fixed_Adv_Training_Mission_For_FSPort.7z