[Nuclear1]

It says when the Terrams discovered subspace somwhere, I think in one of the cancelled cutscenes, but I don't know where the scripts are anymore.

Not particularly when. The FS Ref Bible does say that the nodes required for interstellar travel were discovered by a Prof. J. Whiteside, though it gives no dates.

[Colonol Dekker]

Tis true, t doesnt really go into dates much, just speculation.
We were a system state before Inter-system jumps, but Intra system jumps could have been developed years before, you never know 
(s/p fix)

[aldo_14]

It says when the Terrams discovered subspace somwhere, I think in one of the cancelled cutscenes, but I don't know where the scripts are anymore.

Not particularly when. The FS Ref Bible does say that the nodes required for interstellar travel were discovered by a Prof. J. Whiteside, though it gives no dates.

I'm pretty sure there is a canon date somewhere, but I'll need to get home first (and have dinner!), before checking.  I think it's also said that the Vasudans were earlier into space than the Terrans, although same conditions apply.

[TrashMan]

I belive you are right on that one.

[AlphaOne]

me too! That would explain the somewhat more advanced vasudan designs then compared to the terrans. I mean in terms of reactors at least. But the designs of theyr ships is also somwhat more advanced. This could be from the fact that they were at least some years ahead of the terrans in space posibly even a few decades. But that doesnt mean the subspace tech came in much the same fashion. I beleive that both species developed subspace drives in much the same time frame.

[Mars]

me too! That would explain the somewhat more advanced vasudan designs then compared to the terrans. I mean in terms of reactors at least. But the designs of theyr ships is also somwhat more advanced. This could be from the fact that they were at least some years ahead of the terrans in space posibly even a few decades. But that doesnt mean the subspace tech came in much the same fashion. I beleive that both species developed subspace drives in much the same time frame.

I'm inclined to disagree, the only superior Vasudan desgins are the Hatshepsut and (only in some ways) the Sobek. Think about the Mentu versus the Aeolus, or the Typhon versus the Orion (despite what the tech description says) the ships of the GTN are far more advanced than those of the GVN

[Sarafan]

In terms of reactors, like AlphaOne said the vasudan are somewhat superior, remember that the Deimos uses vasudan reactors for power.

[Mars]

I'll grant you that... but the Vasudans seem behind everywhere else except for beam technology- and I'm not convinced that that's not just because the Terrans can't afford the latest in all of their ships.

[Sarafan]

I remember seeing somewhere that they prefer to count more on their numbers and rate of fire of their weapons than anything else, perhaps thery're more advanced in construction techniques to support a larger army and this kind of strategy?
But still wouldnt say why they cant build an actually decent cruiser. Actually are there any fan made vasudan capital ships?

[aldo_14]

I'll grant you that... but the Vasudans seem behind everywhere else except for beam technology- and I'm not convinced that that's not just because the Terrans can't afford the latest in all of their ships.

The Vasudans are excellent engineers in general, but behind on weapons tech, IIRC.

[Mars]

The Vasudans are excellent engineers in general, but behind on weapons tech, IIRC.

But their beams are generally superior to Terran beams, and other then the Mekhu HL-7, their "light" weapons are all the same as the Terrans.   

[Mongoose]

Regarding the question of just how many refugees made it out of Capella, I seem to remember one of the briefings near the end of the campaign (in fact, it may have been the last briefing) stating that the evacuation was all but completed at the time of the supernova.  Didn't one of the convoy members in the last mission say that their few ships were the last of the evacuees?  I also seem to remember Petrarch mentioning something about most of the inhabitants of Capella making it out safely in the ending cutscene.  I was always under the impression that the vast majority of that 250 million managed to make it out of Capella before the end.

[Sarafan]

Why dont the terran fleet utilizes the vasudan beams? That would give all ships a definitive edge.

[aldo_14]

Why dont the terran fleet utilizes the vasudan beams? That would give all ships a definitive edge.

The technology is probably just incompatible (although the Deimos is possibly anomolous in that respect); for example, Vasudan beams could use energy conduits or cabling types radically different from those that Terran designers design for.

Or, Terrans just prefer green

Regarding the question of just how many refugees made it out of Capella, I seem to remember one of the briefings near the end of the campaign (in fact, it may have been the last briefing) stating that the evacuation was all but completed at the time of the supernova.  Didn't one of the convoy members in the last mission say that their few ships were the last of the evacuees?  I also seem to remember Petrarch mentioning something about most of the inhabitants of Capella making it out safely in the ending cutscene.  I was always under the impression that the vast majority of that 250 million managed to make it out of Capella before the end.

2nd last

The majority of the fleet is fending off a massive attack at the Vega node. Thousands of civilians await evacuation and the enemy continues to flood in from Gamma Draconis. We will not get a second chance to pull this off. If we fail here, we unleash the Second Shivan War. We must get the Bastion through at any cost.

last

The Security Council has authorized the deployment of the GTD Nereid. The destroyer will depart from the Vega system and collapse the node in fifteen minutes. We must therefore complete our evacuation of Capella by that time. Any ship that remains behind will be trapped with the Shivan armada.

I used to be quite convinced that millions died in Capella.  to be fair, I do have the defense of no wiki to check at that time

The 3rd last brief also indicate Capella is Terran, which also answer that question.

[Sarafan]

Not that Deimos is a anomaly but that it was designed in conjuction with the vasudans, it uses they reactor design so possibly its structure is hybrid as to support the both types of thecnologies. It really is true when its said that this type of ship is the foundation of tomorrow's fleet (by type I mean ships designed in conjuction by both species).

[Mars]

That and the Hecate... and we all know the Hecate is the ultimate in **** ups. So why weren't any of the Zod ships constructed with the help of Terrans?

[Sarafan]

Uh, Zods?

[Mars]

Zods=Vasudans

[Ghostavo]

There is the Ulisses and it's vasudan counterpart IIRC.

[Mefustae]

But I remember that being a joint endeavour by both sides [a la the Colossus], that both sides would use against the Shivans.